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John Pittman
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Initially Posted - 05/11/2009 :  07:33:39  Show Profile
Question for the trailer experts.

I pulled the rubber cover of my bearing Buddie to check for grease and was surprised no actually shocked to see that one was very rusty, and bone dry.

I think I need to replace it, question is has anyone ever taken one off and installed a new one?

If so what is the procedure?

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 05/11/2009 :  07:48:09  Show Profile
John,
Take a hammer and tap it around the outer edge and that should loosen it sufficiently to remove it. They are usually tapped in with a hammer also. No screws or rotation involved. By the way these clean up real well. You might give that a try before replacing it.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 05/11/2009 :  08:05:05  Show Profile
The cover covers the outside of the BB. You should see a grease nipple just inside the cover, centered, and pumping grease in it fills the bearings with grease. The BB is a spring loaded plate that moves out when grease is pumped in and it moves in when grease runs out or when the bearings are lowered in cold water and the whole thing contracts.

A red line inside the bb hub indicates if it needs more grease.

The red line was a newer addition and not all of them have the red line.


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Moondance
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Response Posted - 05/11/2009 :  08:20:32  Show Profile
John,
...I learned the importance of HAVING bearing buddies and that wasn't by choice. (My two kids learned some new 'vocabulary words' from Mommy that day). Good thing you decided to check, and thanks for the reminder to do the same!

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 05/11/2009 :  09:37:46  Show Profile
Just be careful not to over fill. The pressure from putting in too much grease can cause them to come loose. I lost one that way.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 05/11/2009 :  09:41:29  Show Profile
John,

You may be talking about a cap over the hub, rather than a bearing buddy.

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Ben
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Response Posted - 05/11/2009 :  09:45:09  Show Profile
If you do have to remove and replace them, it really is quite easy. I would recommend using a rubber mallet, and gently knock the edge of the bearing buddy at an angle. You'll see the bearing buddy start to separate from it's seat.

Be sure to get the right size. I had a "buddy" pick some up at the store for his own trailer, and he didn't realize they arent' all the same size. Guess what, the ones he bought were too big. The good news is they were perfect for my trailer so I took them off his hands.

When you tap the new bearing buddies in, I recommend also using a piece of flat wood with the rubber mallet, because it is hard to get the bearing buddy in uniformly otherwise. I found using the flat piece of wood helped the the bearing buddy get started into it's seat; then just tap the bearing buddy in. At a certain point the buddy will be in far enough that the flat block is unnecessary.

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John Pittman
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Response Posted - 05/11/2009 :  09:56:52  Show Profile
Redeye, I am looking at what once was a very shiny steel housing with a zirc fitting and a spring which is now covered with rust deposits.

There is a rubber cap with bearing Buddie printed on it.


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pastmember
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Response Posted - 05/11/2009 :  10:24:04  Show Profile
The sizes of Bearing Buddies is incredibly confusing and subtle. You must take your old one with you to match the size exactly.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 05/11/2009 :  11:18:56  Show Profile
Yepper.. You got a bb. Like Frank said, they made a million versions of them. I've tried to add them at every trailer I've had and some of them fall off. I don't have any secrets.

It is relatively easy to add a new BB, but what you want to do is check your bearings. Jack up the tire, remove the tire, remove the cotter pin, unscrew the nut and pull out the bearings and see if they are pitted. Inspect the racers for pitting.

It is not easy to rebuild a complete hub, the bearings and seals are easy to replace, but it is difficult to remove and replace the racers.

Some people just buy new hubs.
Some people put in new bearings and grease seals.

Try to find someone that has done it before. In some ways it is not too difficult, Just Greasy!!!




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DaveR
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Response Posted - 05/11/2009 :  11:44:38  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
I ditched my rubber caps years ago. About every 3rd to 5th time out pump it full of grease until it starts exiting the overflow hole. I imagine although rusted yours are probably just fine John, just needs grease. Also they make wheel bearing grease and then they make marine bearing grease for underwater use.

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pfduffy
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Response Posted - 05/12/2009 :  19:30:17  Show Profile
Sounds like it is certainly worth the time to pull the wheels off the trailer and carefully inspect the bearings. Replacing them is cheap insurance - I recently did bearings on a trailer for $45 and about an hour of labor. The only tricky part is removing the inner and outer races from the hub. Not difficult, just tedious. I drove the new races in place with the old bearing.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 05/13/2009 :  05:36:33  Show Profile
I've always wanted to make a review of how to do that. I've done it many times over the years but it is always something like 5 years apart. My grlfrnd and I just did one about 2 years ago on her snipe trailer. We replaced the grease seals and bearings and it was easy. I try to keep an extra set of bearings in the car. I found the parts at Northern Tools.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 05/13/2009 :  13:32:21  Show Profile
You might want to talk to John G. before you do it again. A lot of people might benefit from an tech article like that if he thinks it's apprpriate.

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