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essen48183
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Initially Posted - 02/10/2009 : 18:59:23

Hello all,

I just purchased SCNewbie's C250WB "Cornbread". I plan on changing the name to "Takin' life slow" There is alot of good information here. I will post my experiences as to how I balance the boat... it seems from this forum adn conversations with him that the previous owner felt he had an undersized gen 1 rudder. He had problems with a nasty roundup that he could not tame. It is in fact a gen-2 kick up rudder which has been modified with arlyn's directions with a bit of forward rake. Also it seems I have a 100% instead of a 110% jib.

I imagine that a properly tuned rig combined with a repaired centerboard cable that I can pull up a few degrees combined with reefing appropriately should allow this boat to run like the wind. I am in Michigan so it will take a few months before I can launch her. I used to be able to balance my chrysler 22 to ride on rails with the keel winch... with a swing keel or centerboard you can dramatically change your center of lateral resistance forward and aft quite alot. I haven't yet seen this suggested. (Nor have I tried yet... I may be eating my words.

Essen Davis
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"Cornbread"
1995 Catalina 250, Water Ballast , Hull #161
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 02/10/2009 : 19:27:44

Welcome to the group. Take a minute (and $22) and join the association.

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Russ.Johnson
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Response Posted - 02/10/2009 : 20:42:10

Essen,

Yes, moving the centerboard can change your balance.
There are a few posts about that in the archives.
Of course everything has is costs and moving the centerboard will cause the C250 not to point as high.
There is a trade-off, but you need to find what works best for you.

Russ C250-WB #793

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essen48183
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Response Posted - 02/10/2009 : 21:36:14

Why are the pictures so small on this forum? When someone posts to get help, I notice much of the time I can't see what they are showing and neither can others from their responses. Are they being compressed too much? Is this a setting an admin can fix?

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Response Posted - 02/11/2009 : 00:01:08

Welcome! Check the thread on posting pictures in the Testing Forum. The size depends on the image you select on whatever site you store your pictures--a thumbnail will yield a thumbnail (as in my signature below)--a selected picture will yield an image of the size you're viewing. (Am I making any sense?)

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 02/11/2009 : 06:30:19

Essen... adding my welcomes and Russ has it right that adjusting the center board aft to assist with helm balance is helpful. In fact, about '98 or so, Catalina started installing a stop block to keep the board from going full down. A Catalina drawing exist if one is wanting to add this but it is fairly simple using Marks a Lot to mark the line on the center board for a couple of favorite positions.

Even with the good grip of the 2nd generation rudder, an over canvassed 250 can round up. Does your main have a single or double reef... the first couple of year models had only a single reef point but two are needed with the second being fairly deep.

My rule of thumb is 1st reef around 12-18 and after that the second.

Edited by - Arlyn Stewart on 02/11/2009 06:37:16

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Response Posted - 02/11/2009 : 08:03:19

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by essen48183
 Hello all,

I just purchased SCNewbie's C250WB "Cornbread".<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Congrat's Essen!

Are your planning on keeping your new boat at a marina this coming season? If so, which one?

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essen48183
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Response Posted - 02/11/2009 : 16:01:39

@Arlyn Wow, good info! I have a 100% jib and my main has only 1 reef. I think I'll send it out for mod before it gets too warm. I'll look around for the drawing of the keel limit. Funny. When I first looked at a drawing of the boat, I thought the keel looked too far forward or too vertical.

@dlucier I'm sailing out of the mouth of the Detroit River at the Lake Erie Metropark.

@Dave Thank you. Makes sense. The tiny pics are operator error, then.

@John, I will eventually... I'm broke right now till I sell the other boat. :-)

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/11/2009 : 16:11:42

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by essen48183
[br@dlucier I'm sailing out of the mouth of the Detroit River at the Lake Erie Metropark.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Essen,

I'll be in F17.

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essen48183
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Response Posted - 02/11/2009 : 16:41:47

I pay the $350 for the trailer dry dock for the year and put it in a slip for the few months that my kids are out of school in the summer. I'll keep an eye out for you.

Wait, were you a C25 next to the only Hunter 260 in a slip last year? If so I already met you.

Look forward to seeing you down there this year.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/11/2009 : 18:54:51

No, Essen, that wasn't me. That may have been Phil and/or Mike on Second Wind. I believe they were next to the H260 this past season. I was on the same dock, E, but towards the middle on the opposite side.

I'm sure I'll bump into you, hopefully on land, not on the water, more than a few times this season, and I look forward to actually seeing a C250 in person....78 days and a wake up!

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