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Unsinkable2
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Initially Posted - 01/03/2009 :  23:23:38  Show Profile  Visit Unsinkable2's Homepage
I'm quite jealous as I read about you San Diego Sailors (and other latitudinally-favored-warm-climate sailors.) I was just reading about those of you sailing on New Years, and lamented to my wife that we need to move somewhere warm. She pointed out that I would never get anything done if I could sail year-round.

Anyway, thought you might find these pictures of Utah winter sailing to be of interest.

Here's the one guy who didn't get his sailboat out before the freeze. Do sailboats survive being iced-in all winter?


And here's another one taken the same day from the Marina's remote control webcam of a houseboat being pulled out through the ice. The guys had to melt the snow and ice on teh ramp with propane torches in order to get their rig down to the water...



--Skipper of the Unsinkable2
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1964 Lido 14 #1878 "Tomato Sloop"

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Deric
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Response Posted - 01/04/2009 :  10:02:49  Show Profile
Very interesting.

Not only is the boat still in the water surrounded by ice, the American flag is still attached and blowing in the wind.

An American "Can Do" message perhaps?

Thanks for sharing.

Deric

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 01/04/2009 :  10:32:22  Show Profile
We have as many as a dozen boats iced in each winter, others with bubblers. Certainly a fixed keel is safer and the fewer through-hulls etc is a benefit. The Venture in your photo is so light and draws so little that it will probably be fine. ... but you do have to wonder what some people are thinking!

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 01/04/2009 :  10:40:16  Show Profile
It depends on a lot of things. I don't think the motor that's still in the water will fair very well. That makes me think that this boat wasn't intentionally left in the water but, rather, forgotten about and/or abandoned. If there was water left on board in the tanks/lines, they're not going to do very well either. The water/ice surrounding the slip looks thinner than that further away from the boat so, maybe there' some kind of circulator working. That might help to protect the hull from being crushed.

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dave holtgrave
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Response Posted - 01/04/2009 :  13:23:30  Show Profile
say what you want.
that looks cold!!!!!!!

hope all a happy new year
let's get the country back under control.

dave holtgrave
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hard and dry near carlyle lake in southern illinois

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 01/05/2009 :  09:55:49  Show Profile
We left our C-22 in the water one winter about 15 years ago and the lake froze over in the cove, especially around the slips. Hasn't done it again since that year. I think we had about 3 inches of ice around the boat. It seemed as if the ice just lifted the boat up a little and formed a cradle around it. Didn't seem to hurt the boat, though. Might have been different with a heavier boat. Actually, a houseboat didn't fare so well. Apparently, a through-hull fitting at the stern cracked and the engine compartment flooded. That dock had underwater steel beams, about 4 ft deep, connecting the ends of the pier fingers )we always had to raise the swing keel part way to dock the boat) and we think that beam stopped the houseboat from sinking completely.

Edit: I have to add, fortunately for us it warmed up soon so it wasn't ice-bound very long.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 01/05/2009 :  10:20:20  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
How do you play hockey in the marina if there are still boats in the slips? Can the boats survive a mis-aimed slapshot from 20 feet?

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 01/08/2009 :  17:35:42  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
We had a Venture 22 in the ice at our mooring field a few years ago. It was iced in for 5 1/2 months. The ice bouyed it up for awhile until the painter came up short. The bow was them gradually pulled under and the pressure from the ice cracked the hull. In the spring it was found floating free 3/4 submerged. Teh Coast Guard, suspecting gas/oil polution from the motor, was not happy. The owner is no longer a member of our club.

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