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GaryB
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Response Posted - 12/01/2008 :  19:32:01  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by pastmember</i>
<br />If there is one thing this forum has demonstrated over the years it is that some people just do not "get it" when it comes to trailers and 25 foot boats. Few have changed positions. It is considered poor form to say anything in the swap meet area that is not supportive of the sale of an item so I will make this comment here; a used dual 3500lb axle trailer for a Catalina 25 is worth $1500-$2500 and that is another reason it is best to just keep them. If Walt can get 4 grand for his trailer then he probably should sell it and throw money at any situation where he will wish he had the trailer.
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My bad! I didn't mean to come across as non-supportive of Walt selling his trailer. I was just trying to point out why he might want to reconsider since he is new to the boats. I've removed my comment from the swap meet.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 12/02/2008 :  09:23:26  Show Profile
My first boat was on its own trailer. My C25 didn't come with one. Life is sooooo much simpler, and substantially cheaper, now that I'm trailerless!

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 12/02/2008 :  11:56:21  Show Profile
Like so many things about sailing, the advantages/disadvantages of having a trailer is based on the particular circumstances of the individual. For us a trailer is a must since our lake has no lift facilities. Also, having a trailer means we can reach some great cruising grounds in a single day's drive. I can see why a people who have a lift available and water access to expanded cruising would not need a trailer. Sailors on large bodies of water and on both coasts are in that position.

But then, if I was in that position I wouldn't have a 25' boat.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 12/03/2008 :  09:56:30  Show Profile
Agreed, some people don't need a trailer, but I would be hard pressed to get from Lake Erie to the gulf every year without one. I also like being able to have Pearl at home for upkeep and projects

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 12/03/2008 :  14:49:11  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
As much as I love having Bamboo in water all the time there is one thing I envy you trailer guys about, having the boat right beside the shop (garage) when cleaning/moding/repairing. Electricity galore, being able to address any part of the hull easily, outboard maintanence, etc.
On the other hand I don't have to lower and raise my mast each launch or spend ten thousand+ for a truck and trailer

Oh, and so as not to totally hijack this thread, wouldn't it be difficult to see under the sails from a catbird seat?

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 12/03/2008 :  16:29:23  Show Profile
Dave, I am used to standing or sitting in a helmsman's seat (I have wheel steering) which puts me at the same height, or higher, than the catbird seat and I have no trouble seeing. I do not often sit in the catbird seats myself. It is the crew that likes to sit in them. For the captain I think that switching catbird seats on each tack or gybe would be a hassle. It is more of a passenger thing and my approach is that the more fun the passengers have the better sail it is!

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 12/03/2008 :  21:00:23  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by DaveR</i>
<br />...wouldn't it be difficult to see under the sails from a catbird seat?...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I'e never had them, but in moderate air, I could imagine having very good visibility from the leeward catbird seat. When single-handing, I often sat to leeward where I could see around the jenny and between it and the main--much better visibility than from the windward side.

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