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Steve Blackburn
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Initially Posted - 10/14/2008 : 15:32:38

I notice that in the last months, there are not many postings on this forum. I wonder why that is? You don't want to talk about sailing anymore?

Steve Blackburn, Calgary, AB
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/14/2008 : 15:47:16

Wait'll January, when guys are getting stir-crazy!

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 10/14/2008 : 18:31:40

I think people are burned out by all the negative retoric surrounding the election (in which all of 49 members voted) and all the BS dished out by a disgruntled former member.

Plus its coming to "holiday season" and the sailing is ending for many people (just starting to get good for us in San Diego).

Fall/Winter is usually a big drop off in Forum traffic.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 10/16/2008 : 23:37:23

Don't worry - soon most everyone will get over the depression of putting their boats on the hard and will start thinking about going out again. Oh, and ummm for those keeping count - SV Lysistrata hasn't been hit at anchor in months! Surely some newbie on clothesline and swag chain will bump into me soon!

Then I'll bitch and moan and those who think the offender wasn't that bad of a captain just 'cuz his boat was named Clorox will get their panties in a bunch. See - I just did it. Watch the traffic now! It's building. Flame shields up!

sten

Sten

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SV Lysistrata - C&C 39 - Deltaville, snowbirding it again

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hinmo
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Response Posted - 10/17/2008 : 04:05:21

Well, I want to talk!

I just purchased a 1983 Catalina. Have not sailed it yet, checked her out in the drink on a mooring. Put up all the sails and ran the aux. Then, since the owner and myself were traveling on business, I had her hauled and set-up for the winter. So, I have 6+ months of fantasizing.

How many of you sail salt water? I will be sailing Buzzards Bay Ma. Notorious for its prevailing 15knot Southwesterly and 3-4 ft chop.

I sailed (owned) 20 years ago, but have burning petrol since then.

Question: I don't understand how to reef the main, and tutorials on that (pics?) would be nice.

Thanks

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 10/17/2008 : 07:36:19

Congratulations and welcome to the forum hinmo. You'll find plenty of info by searching the forum. Sounds like you'll have a lot of time to check out the "tech tips" section for cool mods too. [url="http://www.sailnet.com/forums/learning-sail-articles/18863-basics-reefing.html"]Here's[/url] an article with some pics on reefing.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 10/17/2008 : 08:36:11

Seems like postings are way off on some of the other saiing sites too. May be just 'seasonal'.

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Steve Blackburn
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Response Posted - 10/17/2008 : 11:03:33

Welcome to the site hinmo. Too bad you bought a C25, the C250's are so much cooler. OK I'm ducked under my desk now. LOL.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/17/2008 : 11:10:09

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Steve Blackburn
 Too bad you bought a C25, the C250's are so much cooler.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">You haven't sailed on Buzzard's Bay, Steve... I'll take the C-25 there; better yet, a Cape Dory.

Welcome, John! Make yourself a "signature" (under Profile above) so we know what you've got, and jump right in! (Join the association, too--it's the best $22 you'll spend. Then order a C-25 Owner's Handbook from [url="http://www.catalinadirect.com/"]Catalina Direct[/url]--that'll be the best $10.)

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/17/2008 : 11:24:51

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by hinmo
 Question: I don't understand how to reef the main, and tutorials on that (pics?) would be nice.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Generally speaking, there's single-line and two-line reefing. Also, particularly for Buzzard's Bay, a boat might be set up for two degrees of reefing (i.e. smaller and smallest). Do you know what kind of setup your boat has? Any clues from the PO (previous owner) or the hardware on the boom will help us talk you through it. When you have some information, start a new topic on the C-25 forum--you'll get lots of help.

Edited by - Dave Bristle on 10/17/2008 11:26:00

hinmo
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Response Posted - 10/17/2008 : 11:46:31

Guys - I already did join the association.

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hinmo
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Response Posted - 10/17/2008 : 11:48:05

Guys - I already did join the association. And Dave - I used to own a cd-25. I would have considered one again, but for the lack of headroom and they are asking more than I sold mine for 15+ years ago.

I will fill out my sig and profile later.

Hope you all don't mind me talking alot....its a long winter and I'm excited about sailing next spring!

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/17/2008 : 13:53:17

Yup, the CD-25 is a bit cramped... I seriously considered the CD-26, a Carl Alberg design (which the 25 isn't) with about 6' headroom. It's essentially the 25-D without the inboard "D" and with a lazarette for an outboard.

Talk away, John--we all need some diversions as winter sets in!

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 10/17/2008 : 17:23:05

Welcome aboard! A couple of newbies should help solve Steve's issue that started this thread. I sail in saltwater in the winter and must pay attention to my cast iron swing keel (an issue that has been beaten to death) and hardware, but she handles the swell easily. I don't know how deep your water is, but the the last time I was out on Lake Erie I timed 3 - 4 footers at a hair under 4 seconds - one tends to pound in that.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 10/17/2008 : 21:47:30

John, welcome. Here's my advice. If you ever find yourself within a mile of a C&C 39 named SV Lysistrata get your ass out of there fast. That vessel has been named "Most Likely to be Struck" by BoatUS two years in a row.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 10/18/2008 : 09:22:43

Quote: "That vessel has been named "Most Likely to be Struck" by BoatUS two years in a row."

Whoa! We just started our second year of full time cruising. Does that mean we are in for more of the same? Good golly, I've been meaning to make a collision mat. You just convinced me.

Welcome aboard John. Your C25 will be a very reliable vessel in most of what Buzzards Bay will dish out. Been there, done that. Reef before you go out if you are on a ball and it's ablowing... Your biggest issue is that if you wanna motor in those conditions you may find your outboard cavitating and you'll have to really sail to get home or another safe harbor.

Find every nook and cranny for a storm situation and upgrade your ground tackle. We recently ran into cruisers from Maine who had their asses handed to them and had trounble rolling up the roller furling. This on a 38 foot boat that looked mostly salty to me.

The boat will take it, trust me. My wife and I on our '82 rode out some pretty severe stuff and had a window in the water more times than I care to remember. Go over the rigging, and the rudder pintles etc, make sure all of that stuff is good and strong. The C25's of that genre are really saltier that even I thought. But look at Jim, he takes his THOUSANDS of mile annually. You'll be fine - the Cape Dory would just be a lot more $ for the same time on the water.

sten
"Most Likely To Be Struck"

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hinmo
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Response Posted - 10/18/2008 : 12:15:02

Good news Red - thanks

I will be on stick in Mattapoisett Harbor. Single tack to Woods Hole in the prevailing SW. I am not going to spend alot of $ on her this off-season/year. I'll wing it and see how things go. I really don't have to get anywhere (yup - I admit it, I have a couple power boats too!). The sailing is just for fun and alcohol consumption, and for the damn 4 ft chop that is present 90% of the time.

Looking forward to it. Pics to come.

Thanks all

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 10/18/2008 : 12:37:33

>"If you ever find yourself within a mile of a C&C 39 named SV Lysistrata get your ass out of there fast"

Au contraire. Based on recent history, Lysistrata will attract all hazards in the immediate area. Simply follow them around at a safe distance, say 1/4 mile, and you'll have a comfortable and hassle-free cruising experience. :>)

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 10/18/2008 : 22:26:09

in terms of the original topic...summer has ended

and work has picked up

to to point of interfering w/ my real interests

!!!

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redviking
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Response Posted - 10/19/2008 : 09:43:01

Moved my response to a new topic

Sten

DPO Zephyr - '82 C25, FK, SR
SV Lysistrata - C&C 39 - Deltaville - headed south

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crcalhoon
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Response Posted - 10/19/2008 : 11:15:18

Hey Dave, I always thought that the Cape Dory 25D was an Alberg design, but that the CD 25 (outboard) was a lighter weight by a different designer. Have I been wrong all these years? P.S. Used to own a CD 30. Loved it.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/19/2008 : 11:49:21

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by crcalhoon
 Hey Dave, I always thought that the Cape Dory 25D was an Alberg design, but that the CD 25 (outboard) was a lighter weight by a different designer. Have I been wrong all these years? P.S. Used to own a CD 30. Loved it.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Exactly right. By "it" I meant the 26, which is like the Alberg-drawn 25D. You can spot those Alberg lines anywhere, and the CD-25 (no "D") definitely isn't part of that family.

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hinmo
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Response Posted - 10/19/2008 : 16:54:14

I love the CD Lines. They are my favorite as far as looks go. The guy next to my mooring has a 28 (I think). The only knock on them I have heard, is in nasty weather, they have such low freeboards, they can be quite wet. The Cat 25 looks like a tank.

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 10/20/2008 : 00:06:05

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by JimB517
 ...Plus its coming to "holiday season" and the sailing is ending for many people...
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Our sailing season ended last July 2nd, when Folsom Lake Marina closed for the year due to low water level

. For their $1200, the slip renters got only 9 weeks of slip use this whole year

.

I was out at the lake last Friday to check the trailer tires (make sure none have gone low or flat), and winterize the boat. The view of the lake from the Brown's Ravine launch ramp is shocking, the lowest I've seen it since the last big drought about 20 years ago. The lake is 88' below full pond today, which is 38' below the elevation where the marina docks went high and dry on the mud, which happened about three weeks after we had to haul out. The lake is still dropping 1/2 foot a day and it's still only October! At the rate that BuRec is drawing off water the last couple of months, the lake could drop as low as 110' below full pond this winter. If that happens, and we don't get somewhere around 200%-above-normal snowfall in the mountains this coming winter, there's a good chance that the lake might never rise enough next spring to float the marina docks at all - a "zero year" for the slip renters. I'm giving a lot of thought lately to moving "Quiet Time" to a non-lake marina when my Folsom Lake storage contract runs out next April. Probably move to SF Bay or the San Joaquin Delta at Antioch. Folsom Lake is a lot closer to home than Antioch, but if BuRec can't keep enough water in Folsom Lake to keep the marina operating for a full season (March to October), it's a waste of money to keep the boat there.

Sorry for the rant, I'm just p'o'ed at the whole situation at Folsom Lake. This was the fouth year since 2000 that the marina has had to close right in the middle of boating season, in July or early August, due to low water level, and it looks like next year it's likely to happen again.

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 10/20/2008 : 07:55:57

Wow Larry--that sucks! (Literally!) Where's the water going--irrigation, households,...? I must admit that ignoring the minor daily complication of tides, it's nice to have the same amount of water day-to-day and year-to-year, rain or no rain. Of course, over the longer run, more is predicted!

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