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Prospector
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Initially Posted - 05/14/2008 :  08:48:18  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
[url="https://www.airmiles.ca/arrow/RewardsProductDetails?productId=prod324132&referrerUrl=RewardsProductList"]MP3 Player[/url]

I just came across this on the Airmiles website - have any of you got something like this? Would it be adequate for cabin music in the boat? I am (thus-far) stereo free, and want something small, but loud enough to be enjoyable, and removable, and I don't want to carry around a stack of CD's.

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Justin
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Response Posted - 05/14/2008 :  09:24:07  Show Profile  Visit Justin's Homepage
I think that is a typo about having a speaker; those Zen Stones are very tiny. It only has a headphone jack if I recall correctly. I've looked into getting one for running to replace my older small armband mp3 player.

My solution for music on board was to install a CD stereo head unit and speakers on the forward cabin bulkhead. I have my Zen Vision:M MP3 media player with 30 gigs of music and the head unit can play MP3 CDs as well. It sounds great, but it sounds like you might be looking for a simpler solution. Some here have used boomboxes which are inexpensive and simple.

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ilnadi
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Response Posted - 05/14/2008 :  11:28:43  Show Profile
Apparently there is a [url="http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=213&subcategory=214&product=17438"]version with a speaker[/url]. I would not expect it to produce enough sound in enough quality to make you happy (then again, who knows?). You can always add a pair of powered computer speakers (powered from the battery via an inverter/wall adaptor or you can probbaly find a 9V to whatever adapter) and it will be enough sound to fill the cabin (and listen from the cockpit).

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 05/14/2008 :  11:29:33  Show Profile
I use this, Tivoli iSongbook. Great sound with iPod mount and excellent radio reception. Sears online sells them for half price. I also bought the carry case and use it to hang the unit in the cabin. FYI, the remote also controls the iPod. The unit has a built in charger as well. Overall excellent sound with no permanent installation.

[url="http://www.tivoliaudio.com/product.php?productid=200"]iSongbook[/url]

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ilnadi
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Response Posted - 05/14/2008 :  11:30:28  Show Profile
Apparently there is a [url="http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=213&subcategory=214&product=17438"]version with a speaker[/url]. I would not expect it to produce enough sound in enough quality to make you happy (then again, who knows?). You can always add a pair of powered computer speakers (powered from the battery via an inverter/wall adaptor or you can probbaly find a 9V to whatever adapter) and it will be enough sound to fill the cabin (and listen from the cockpit).

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Justin
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Response Posted - 05/14/2008 :  13:14:42  Show Profile  Visit Justin's Homepage
Wow, it actually does have a speaker on that tiny thing. It's probably a lot like the speaker on my smart phone, which would be mostly worthless while sailing with the wind and other noise. Probably a boombox or speaker docking station with a mp3 player would be a good choice.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 05/14/2008 :  13:16:33  Show Profile
I've looked into this in great detail. For my purposes the iPod is the best because of all the accessories. Things like the MP3 player don't work with iPod accesories.
I like Nautiduck's solution. I have a Bose sound dock and think it is awesome. I download a lot of pod casts for boat listening, and have compiled several playlists.
The Bose sound dock is available from Airmiles, and so is the iPod.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 05/14/2008 :  13:32:29  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
Since I don't own an ipod, i was looking for ways to not pay a premium for the name brand. I also saw this on airmiles, and thought it might work:

[url="https://www.airmiles.ca/arrow/RewardsProductDetails?productId=prod163993&referrerUrl=RewardsProductList"]Kensington speaker thing[/url]

I would fall into the demographic of "or other MP3 player," on the downside I would lose the FM radio capability.

We have a boombox now, and while it works, it doesn't fit "right", I was looking for something more compact that could be put out of the way.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 05/14/2008 :  15:25:32  Show Profile
Sample some music, Bose VS Kensington. You'll drop the Kensington thing and say 'OHHH Yuckky'

iPods are no more expensive than any other comparative music device. Shop around.

It remains a fact, because iPod is the clear leader, other manufacturers target that market.


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piseas
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Response Posted - 05/14/2008 :  15:49:33  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
I second Ipod. If your radio does not have aux jack, then you can hook up to a cig.lighter jack on the boat. You have to buy that adapter but you will have lots and lots and lots of music.
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/14/2008 :  16:55:02  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
I have a fairly extensive music collection on a hard drive and we use an Ipod most of the time. Sattelite radio for most of the rest. If your radio doesn't have an aux jack you can look into a RF modulator transmitter thing that will couple with the Ipod and transmit about 10 or 12 different fm frequencies.

You can then use it in a car that might not have an aux input, with a boom box with a clock radio.... and you still have the IPOD.

There is plenty of free software to rip the CD's you already own too.

Stampeder is right, ipods are equivalent to other music systems - depending on the model some are very reasonable.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 05/15/2008 :  12:41:22  Show Profile
Even as a Mac person, I will concede that Apple products usually command a modest premium, part of that is brand related, but most of it is because Apple doesn't make low end products. When they released the Mini, Steve Jobs said "it took so long to release and inexpensive Mac because we don't build junk". There are many Ipod speaker systems that produce satisfactory sound, it just depends on how much you want to spend. The advantage of the Bose (we love it) is reduced if you use mp3 instead of the lossless compression codecs available to the Ipod. Rip a cd to Apple Lossless or AAC and use ear buds to appreciate what an Ipod is capable of.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 05/20/2008 :  14:29:08  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
The quest continues... Does 4 ohms = OK sound? should I just cave and buy a car audio system?

http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/sba1510_27/sba1510_27_pss_aen.pdf

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 05/20/2008 :  15:05:08  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
I just was talking about this on another thread a few days ago, If you buy cheap now you'll just wish you would have done it right later. I'm a big fan of [url="http://us.creative.com/products/welcome.asp?category=213"]Creative and their mp3 player the Zen[/url]. There's a bunch of them, from small to large. A decent [url="http://www.crutchfield.com/c_20/Marine-Audio.html?tp=419&cm_re=topnav*prodmenu3*spg_20"]marine stereo/cd player[/url] and an mp3 player and you'll be good for a loooooooong time

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