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Steve Milby
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Initially Posted - 11/24/2007 : 12:24:24

These photos are making the rounds of the sailing forums. You've got to see them! The guy is bringing the boat down the ICW, and his mast is a bit too high for some of the bridges. Each bag reportedly contains 2000# of water.

Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
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piseas
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Response Posted - 11/24/2007 : 12:30:39

Great pic. But how did he know how much water to put in bags to make it under bridge? I am sure there is some formula.
Steve A

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 11/24/2007 : 13:54:58

He's gonna be in a mess o' trouble if something breaks!

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 11/24/2007 : 15:27:24

Amazing... It appears to me that he controls the amount of heel with two lines from the bags back to the boat--the further he lets the bags out, the more heel he gets, and in these shots he isn't going for the max. (The halyards aren't vertical.) He undoubtedly did some geometry to figure out the angle he needed for each bridge--there's no way he can tell if he's gonna clear from the cockpit. Compared to sailing with the rail down, that seems like a huge point-load at the mast-head, and a serious test of the rig. If the bags drag, it could be worse.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 11/24/2007 : 17:34:09

I give him an A+ for ingenuity..

But it just seems too risky to me to try something like this. He appears awfully close to the underside of the bridge. If for some reason the bags come closer to the hull or if they go into the water and slow the boat making it turn under the bridge...not sure then what happens.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 11/24/2007 : 18:56:26

Heh... obviously heeling a boat like that takes big balls... yellow ones.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 11/24/2007 : 21:24:33

I zoomed in down to pixels, if it's a spoof it's a good one!
I would have thought though that the stbd shrouds would be slack in that situation, but they are straight as an arrow! Hmmmmm did anyone actually see this?

Paul

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/24/2007 : 21:25:31

Not much different than what bigger race boat crews do to get big keels out of undredged channels early and late in the racing season.... Everybody and the cooler on starboard, hang out as far as you can. I guess the only difference is if we don't heel the Evelyn enough we run aground. If his big fluid filled yellow balls don't swing far enough his stick breaks...(that doesn't sound right does it.

Edited by - Champipple on 11/25/2007 06:52:04

Ed Cassidy
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Response Posted - 11/25/2007 : 04:05:15

While it is a cool idea, I don't buy it. How would he get the bags of water to swing over the side of the boat in the first place? And wouldn't one bag be on each side of the mast making it impossible? I vote 'spoof'.
Ed

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 11/25/2007 : 06:47:38

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">How would he get the bags of water to swing over the side of the boat in the first place? And wouldn't one bag be on each side of the mast making it impossible?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">If you'll look at the second picture, he's not approaching the bridge up the middle. Somewhere along the line, he steered to the left side of the bridge entrance, and then turned back to the right before he got to the bridge abutment. I suspect that, as he was coming down the middle of the channel approaching the bridge, he made a hard left turn. That maneuver caused the boat to "move out from under" the water bags. The bags were swinging on a line to the top of the mast. Their inertia caused them to go a different direction from the boat. That got the bags to the right side of the boat. Once there, their weight forced the boat to heel, and the degree of heel could be controlled by the lines from the boat to the bags. That's my best guess.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 11/25/2007 : 11:08:49

I think they are just really big Solar Showers.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 11/25/2007 : 11:54:47

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by britinusa
 ...I would have thought though that the stbd shrouds would be slack in that situation, but they are straight as an arrow!...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">On a boat in that class, probably rod rigging.

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Captain Bill
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Response Posted - 11/29/2007 : 19:18:58

Last New Year's eve we were dining with my wife's college roommates and their spouses in Williamsburg, Va. One of the guys had bought a specific type sailboat (can't remember details but I wrote in this forum earlier this year) located on the west coast of Florida. He lives in Yorktown, Va. One of the problems he had bringing it home was a bridge over the East-West canal in Florida was too low for his mast. He made arrangements ($$$) with a local who guaranteed him he could get his boat under the bridge. Well, you guessed it, he used water bags for weight to tip his boat go under the bridge and off they went. That wasn't the only adventure he had on his way home but believe me this did happen.

This picture looks like it could have been made in the Everglades on the canal.

Bill

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 11/29/2007 : 21:03:24

That is one "hung" boat!

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