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JimB517
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Initially Posted - 11/03/2007 :  12:25:17  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Now that summer daylight savings time is over, I have added up my entire log for March 11 - Nov 3. It comes to 1135. The last 225 miles were in 57 hours, a 4 knot average.

Its a very sad day that my sailing every day after work is essentially over. I think I'll do some chores on the boat and start walking on the beach after work.

Ironic that last night as I hoisted the main for my last after-work sail the main halyard broke. We are heading down to fix that now.

I'll still be sailing every Sunday, plus there will be the occasional time I can get away early or take a lunchtime sail. I'll also continue to spend every Wednesday night onboard.


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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 11/03/2007 :  12:33:22  Show Profile
I feel soooooooooooo badly for you...

<i>Sarge</i> went on the hard last Tuesday.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/03/2007 :  13:33:40  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
FellowShip went on the hard last Saturday.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 11/03/2007 :  17:53:37  Show Profile
"Its a very sad day that my sailing every day after work is essentially over"

With a modern chartplotter navigation isn't nearly as challenging in the dark as it used to be. If you're worried about traffic... why not invest in a modest RADAR unit ($1K) and keep on sailing.

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Steve Blackburn
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Response Posted - 11/03/2007 :  21:50:02  Show Profile  Visit Steve Blackburn's Homepage
I also feel veeeeeery bad for you Jim. Especially when looking at my boat tarped up until April 08. Only 6 months to go! :-(

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 11/04/2007 :  08:39:27  Show Profile
Jim,
If you don't mind my asking, how/why did the main halyard fail? Is it all line, or cable - internal/external? I'm just curious as to the circumstances. I plan to change ours this winter season and would appreciate learning from your experience.
Thanks!

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 11/04/2007 :  10:33:40  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
I have 3/16 vectran V12 (like kevlar) line center spliced to 3/8 dacron tails. I put 3/16 sheeves at the top of the mast. The 3/16 vectran is really tough - you can barely cut it and it won't melt when you hold a flame to the ends like nylon. But it is vulnerable to UV and chafe. I decided to do this rather than put 5/16 sheeves and run 5/16 the whole way. I don't believe my clutches will hold 5/16 very well.

I replaced the jib halyard this year but I believed I could get some more time out of the main. About once per year I "freshen the nip" and cut about a foot off the end of the V12 part. I did not do this on the main and it broke Friday night about a foot from the shackle. Right at the part that rides over the sheeves constantly when the sail is up.

I have the old halyard up, Karen had to ride to the top of the mast on a very windy day. I'll have a new one made but meanwhile at least I can sail.

These halyards are very expensive - about $150 for 70 feet (30 of V12 and the rest 3/8). I got 3 years out of it so you can't complain.

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 11/06/2007 :  14:59:44  Show Profile
Interesting, I appreciate your experience, thanks for the explanation. I like the idea of trimming the working end after a season to keep the most stressed end fresh. My plan is to put in 5/16 the whole way for the Main, and even though I've got a furler, I plan to put in a foresail halyard of 3/16. I'm still wrestling over which product to go for. (I'm going to wait for the big winter sale)

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 11/06/2007 :  17:14:08  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
V12 or the new 3/16 Dynema. Dynema is available in colors, is stronger and lower stretch than V12 (a 3/16 V12 will lift 5500 lbs with very low stretch). I believe the Dynema is slightly more resistant to UV damage. It is a few pennies a foot more expensive, about $0.90/ft at Layline, WM is cheaper. V12 splicing is a special skill and knots take away much of the strength (although I use bowlines). I don't need 5500 lbs of strength.

Interesting that you can lift the boat on one of these 3/16 lines. Until they chafe on your sheeves. I've also had some trouble having these lines jump off the sheeves so I've learned to keep them tight when not in use.

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 11/08/2007 :  19:54:26  Show Profile
Thanks Jim!

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Justin
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Response Posted - 11/28/2007 :  19:01:29  Show Profile  Visit Justin's Homepage
That's awesome you've sailed so much Jim! Must be nice to be able to sail year round continually in mostly mild weather.

So, how about a little friendly competition...
I was curious what my totals have been for this sailing so far and just created a spreadsheet. I recorded many of the total distances traveled from my GPS after each sail, but there were a few I did not note the exact number. For those, I used my mapping software to create a route from the GPS trails I have individually recorded for each sail. This comes very close, but not exact; there can be a very slight variance. After adding it all up, I have 524.99 nautical miles recorded on my Sapphire Breeze starting from July 1st when I finally launched after completing so many projects. There were an additional estimated 43 nm sailed on my friend Dave's C-250 and then over 1,000 nm sailed down the east coast to Ft. Lauderdale in April. That would make 1,568+ nautical miles sailed this year!!

I spent 27 days on my C-25, 2 on Dave's C-250, 1 on Daren's C-25, and 13 days going down the coast on the Hunter 42'. This doesn't include the 7 or 8 weekends I spent living in my C-25 on the hard while I completed tons of work. So that makes over 43 days on the water this year.

So, how do I compare to most here? Have many of you figured out how much time you really spend on your sailboat? Granted, I am a young bachelor, so I don't have to deal with a family and everything that goes along with one. The season still isn't over for me. I'm keeping her in the water through the winter and expect to sail on mild weekends. I'm looking forward to next year because my boat should be in commission just about all year, unlike this year she was out from January to July. I also was just recently hired on with my job and get paid vacation, something I really missed as a subcontractor! So, next year I'm planning on some extended cruising!

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 11/28/2007 :  19:05:36  Show Profile
I try not to think about it. The next logical step is cost per sailing hour or somesuch. I REALLY don't want to think about that!

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 11/29/2007 :  07:12:40  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by John Russell</i>
<br />The next logical step is cost per sailing hour or somesuch.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

<font size="4">I did the numbers, it works out to being Priceless!</font id="size4">

Paul

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