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ABYON
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Initially Posted - 08/29/2007 :  19:34:29  Show Profile
This is my fifth season with my 2003 water-ballasted 250. For the first time, I trailered the boat 700 miles east from Ottawa to the Canadian maritimes to give the boat a taste of salt water. It was an amazing experience.

It just didn't feel like the same boat. In wind speeds that usually have me hurrying to reduce sail, I was able to keep flying at hull speed while the boat remained well-mannered at all times. On the lake I sail here at home, a well developed force 4 with its accompanying waves is quite a sporting experience. On salt water it was a cakewalk. The experience left a big smile on my face as well as on everyone else's on board. It also convinced me of the seaworthiness of these 25-footers.

I'm attributing all of this to the increased buoyancy of salt water and the corresponding increase of weight in the ballast tank. Or, am I just imagining things?

On another topic, the IDA Sailor kick-up rudder I installed a couple of years back performed flawlessly including the time I ran into a bit of trouble in skinny water. The only injury was the nylon breakaway bolt.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 08/30/2007 :  09:03:17  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
I don't own a WB, but did the math for fun. Using 1200 lbs of freshwater weight as the benchmark, the extra density of seawater would have added about 32 extra pounds of weight.

Freshwater = 1000 kg/m^3
Saltwater = 1027 kg/m^3
1kg = 2.2 lbs

1200 lbs / 2.2kg/lb = 544.3kg
(1027 kg/m^3 / 1000 kg/m^3) x 544.3kg = 559kg
2.2lbs/kg x 559kg = <b>1232lbs</b>
<i>(I rounded all the above figures so if you work the math yourself you'll get somewhat different answers. When calculating it, I used the built in conversion factors on my HP 48 calculator).</i>

However, the [url="http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/earth/Water/density.html"]density of seawater[/url] varies with temperature & pressure, so if the water was particularly cold, it would have been more dense, hence heavier.

I don't have figures for the displacement of our boats, so I can't figure [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buoyancy"]buoyancy[/url], at least not yet.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/30/2007 :  10:13:28  Show Profile
Could it be that the waves were longer-period due to longer fetch and deeper water? Also, sea breezes tend to be much steadier than breezes across land--just ask any coastal sailor about the difference between on-shore sea breezes and off-shore winds--the latter, coming across the land, are generally more gusty and unpredictable.

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