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gerarda
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Initially Posted - 07/14/2002 : 11:27:33

I HAVE READ ALL THE "WINDOW LEAKS" mail....and followed much advice with my own leaking windows.I have calked 4 times with no luck..it leaks again every time it rains...now a new approach. I know my leaks are at the rubber seal between the glass and the aluminum channel that holds the rubber seal. I figured out when it starts to rain, the first thing that must happen is for the aluminum channel to fill with water till it reaches the top of the inside channel at which point it must now run over the channel lip and inside the cabin.so.....if the channel cannot fill to the top !!! it can not run over into the cabin!!...that's an easy fix. I drill a 5/64 inch hole near the bottom of the channel on the outside of the aluminum frame(about 3/8 below the lip of the channel) now when it rains...and the channel attempts to fill ..it see's a hole near the bottom of the channel and it drains to the outside unable to build up /fill the channel and spill over into the inside of the cabin...PS i installed new rubber window gaskets before I did this fix and they were such a sloppy fit they leaked worse than the old original catalina seals !!!!!!'s Good luck with your leaks !!!! best winds to you all!!!!

John S. Cat 25 "Stuart Little" Norfolk Va.

Gerard A.Saindon

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 07/14/2002 : 14:51:03

Each time this toppic comes up it makes me wonder. I have never had a window leak or any problems with seals. I have not realy paid attention or compared any other Catalinas to Wind Lass. Now Im begining to wonder what my boat is equiped with. I made a trip over to a local island a several weeks back and Doug of NOETA made a few coments about the upgrades I had. I didn't realize I had them at all other than the mast to spreader fitting being stainless steel. My windows and frames are flush fit with the exterior of the cabin and the windows are tinted. The picture in the parts book looks like the window frames protrude out a little. My deck fittings arent the same either but have round bases welded out of stainless and large backing plates on the interior. Perhaps finding out that Wind Lass isn't stock will help me better understand what the rest of you are having trouble with. I wish I new where the windows and frames I have came from so I could share the info. Ill have to take some photos to share. BTW I did post a window upgrade kit message several weeks ago did you find it ?

Doug&Ruth
Wind Lass
Tacoma Wa.

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 07/14/2002 : 14:54:50

Here it is. www.cruisingconcepts.com

Doug&Ruth
Wind Lass
Tacoma Wa.

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 07/14/2002 : 21:56:53

Doug: What year is yours? Later vintages (at least by '89) had unframed, flush-mount windows. I've heard mixed reviews about their long-term maintainability, but I wouldn't mind not having the aluminum frames in our environment.

Gerard: Great idea! Sorta like the weep holes on the frames of some bronze ports I've seen.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 07/14/2002 : 23:45:58

The frame is there its just very flat. 1983, what about tinted windows does anyone else have these on their boat ? The outer frame is sealed with a fine bead of Grey sealant and looks factory.

Doug&Ruth
Wind Lass
Tacoma Wa.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 07/15/2002 : 12:46:15

I have a cross sectional "drawing" of the Catalina aluminum window frame (from Catalina in a jpeg format.) My goal was to set up a link for viewing on this forum - but I haven't found the time.
I'd be happy to e-mail it if you send me an e-mail at:

madsens@sgi.net

If someone else has time to set it up for viewing here - I'd be happy to send it to you as well!

Anyone ever have USB connectivity problems with their digital camera? I had to install an alternate USB card with an OPTI chipset becuase I couldn't get the ViaTech chipset (on the motherboard) to recognize my DC4800 - even with sofware upgrades <img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle> - for what ever that was worth . . .

Steve Madsen
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OJ (Ode to Joy)

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 07/15/2002 : 13:37:37

I am having a hard time visualizing where these "drain holes" are drilled? The only thing I can envision would allow the water to run right into, or agaist the wood core???

dw

Duane Wolff
"The Flying Wasp"
C-25, #401 std,sk
Chief Measurer C-25/250 National Assn.
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 07/15/2002 : 14:40:00

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I am having a hard time visualizing where these "drain holes" are drilled? The only thing I can envision would allow the water to run right into, or agaist the wood core???

dw
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Duane: I'm pretty sure Gerard is talking about a hole in the aluminum channel, from the outside, just above the "bottom" of the inside of the channel (not the bottom of the outside frame). You'd have to remove the window to know exacly where to place it, because you'd want it to drain from the inside of the channel to the outside of the frame--not to the fiberglass under it. A perfect seal would be a better solution, but you know how water is... <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

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