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John Hill
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Initially Posted - 05/18/2007 :  09:48:27  Show Profile  Visit John Hill's Homepage
I don't see in the manual any specifics on what to use or how to use the seizing wire or rigging wire that holds the shrouds to the spreaders. Can anyone enlighten me on that? Where can I buy it?

Also I read in one post that the shroud should be able to slide freely but the manual suggests (and the way it was set up on my boat before) using rigging tape to prevent chafing of the sail. It seems to me wrapping rigging tape will deter a sliding shroud. Can anyone educate me here?
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/18/2007 :  11:42:15  Show Profile
I'll try...

There are a few variations on how to wire the shrouds to the spreader--I used about 3 turns around the shroud below the spreader, then ran the wire through the hole, and then put 3 turns around the shroud above the spreader and then twisted the two ends together in a place that wouldn't threaten the sail. Then I taped rubber spreader boots over the whole mess. I bought a reel of SS wire at West (for about the same price as gold-plated platinum)--now have a multiple-lifetime supply that I still use for anchor shackles, etc.

The "sliding" that's mentioned is just a fraction of an inch, due to the changes in loading during tacks, or bending of the mast using an adjustable backstay. The plastic spreader caps allow that to happen without chafing the shrouds. Rigging tape or spreader boots won't prevent that movement--they just protect your sail.

Do you feel educated now? (It could be a false sense of security.)
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delliottg
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Response Posted - 05/18/2007 :  12:01:03  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
If you've got a Harbor Freight outlet somewhere near you, stainless wire is much-much-much cheaper. I bought a [url="http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=8892"]triple lifetime supply[/url] for about $6-$7 a few months ago. If there isn't one close, you can just order it from them.
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 05/18/2007 :  13:58:54  Show Profile
I purchased the Forespar Sailsaver Jib Rollers for my C250. They are essentially wheels that go on the shroud just above the spreaders (they actually rest on the spreaders) and they keep the sails off the spreader tip very effectively. $17 from defender.com.
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John Hill
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Response Posted - 05/18/2007 :  14:50:42  Show Profile  Visit John Hill's Homepage
Sounds good... all. ...and I definitely feel better educated (getting dangerous) now.

The plan is to have the boat in the water a week from today (friday). I made her legal this morning, paid sales tax and all the proper fees for boat, motor, and trailer.
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 05/18/2007 :  16:57:21  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
I like the application of the rollers... had them on a Hobie 18 and they were very effective.

The spreaders on the 250 are a little different than typical spreaders and are self booting meaning they have a fairly large rounded end. Rig rap however must be used to protect the sail from the seizing wire and IMHO the joint where the cast aluminum spreader tip enters the aluminum extrusion of the spreader arm.

They make leather boots that will cover these but they leave opportunity for the leather itself because of the way they install to form an edge that can damage the sail.

IMHO rip rap is the simplest way of dealing with the spreaders and the seizing wire. It is needed on the boat anyway especially around the forward turnbuckles of the life lines where the jib will be abraided without it. I like to cover the rig rap with some good quality white electrical tape.

I certainly agree with the use of the wheels.
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