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barleyrooty
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Initially Posted - 03/28/2007 : 05:49:40

Hi All I'm new here.

Seriously considering buying a C-250 WB. My biggest question at this point is: How would I get it from it's home near Annapolis to Long Island? Can I rent a trailer? If I pay someone else, how much should I expect to pay to transport it?

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Phil

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 08:35:08

Those are questions that don't seem to have an easy answer. I just went through the purchase/transport issue but the boat HAD a trailer. Finding a trailer seems to be rather dificult from what I've gleaned from posts on this site. However, I might suggest looking at the Swap Meet. There's a 250 WK in NYC that might be of interest to you. You could sail it home. Search for DrDre.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 09:28:21

www.uship.com

there also used to be a 250 in the swap meet brand new from the mfg (triad trailers)

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 11:14:18

The main advantage of the water ballast C250 is that is it easier to trailer. It seems odd to me to buy one without a trailer. In fact it seems odd to me to buy any 25' sailboat without a trailer but especially a C250 water ballast.

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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 12:51:55

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nautiduck
 It seems odd to me to buy one without a trailer. In fact it seems odd to me to buy any 25' sailboat without a trailer...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

It seems odd to me to buy a boat with a trailer.

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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 14:10:33

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dlucier
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nautiduck
 It seems odd to me to buy one without a trailer. In fact it seems odd to me to buy any 25' sailboat without a trailer...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

It seems odd to me to buy a boat with a trailer.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

For a Cruising boat - I agree. Especially when I have 100,000 square miles of connecting freshwater and gateways to the Atlantic and the Mississipi.

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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 14:17:01

Psst, Randy, you're right the D's just don't appreciate the joys of channel steel.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 15:52:53

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com
 Psst, Randy, you're right the D's just don't appreciate the joys of channel steel.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> and rust, surge/electric/faulty brakes, burned out lights, proper tow vehicles, flat tires, short launch ramps, shallow launch ramps, algae covered ramps, trailer storage, bottom painting a boat sitting on bunk boards, trailer maintenance, bad wheel bearings, launch ramp mishaps, trailer licensing, corroded electrical connections, steep inclines, road hazards,...

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 16:01:49

PLUSES: No moorage fees in the winter, no haulout fees, doing one's own maintenance at HOME, under cover, fewer blisters (cuz boats dry out), accessiblity to so many cruising areas/lakes, etc.

NO WAY I'd stick to 25' EXCEPT that I can trailer. By boat, it's 300 miles down the Columbia River, up the nasty Washington coast, down the foggy straits to get to the San Juan Islands and Canadian Gulf Islands (a paradise). I have done that trip numerous times, dealing with the Columbia River bar (the graveyard of the Pacific, some say).

By trailer? It's 5 hours away at 60 MPH.

For my situation, (and others like me) I'll keep the trailer. (I am just now taking a break from painting the bottom.....while it's at home....ON THE TRAILER.

Gary B.
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 16:57:19

There is nothing in this world like galvanized steel, dual axles, surge brakes,and an anti-sway hitch to get the heart pumping.

Besides needing to remove our boat from the lake in the winter, it is better to trailer to the San Juans than to die trying to navigate up the Oregon and Washington coasts in a 25' sailboat. Plus it takes 4 hours instead of four days.

OK, so some of you are on year-round sailing spots that can't be beat. OK. One question:

1. Why a 25 and not a 30?

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C25Guy
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 17:44:25

I love the cost savings of keeping my boat on the trailer as it keeps my 7-footitis from flaring up!

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 18:22:19

Phil,
You might contact a Catalina dealer in Annapolis and see what they might offer. I found this site on Google:

http://www.marinesource.com/advertisers_directories/boat_transport.cfm

or give some of the businesses here a call. They should be able to turn you onto someone who can help.

http://www.hometownannapolis.com/lw_boating_svc.html

Usually people on this site offer more help then hijacking your thread and turning it in to an off-topic argument.

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 18:26:56

Randy, I've done the trip from the bar up the coast to the San Juans a number of times on a variety of boats, including my old Tartan 30. Once I did it in an Ericson 27 (with my ob as emergency aux) but it was the Oregon Offshore to Victoria, BC. Took nearly the time limit of 3 days! (all under sail). Much less stressful trailering unless you have the RIGHT boat and a good crew. Even then, the trip N. ain't much fun. Coming downhill is okay, but the bar can be rough if you don't time it right.

My EZ loader is not galvanized, but it's holding up. No salt for it; I "sling" into salt.

Best,

Gary B.

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mhartong
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 18:49:50

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nautiduck
 
OK, so some of you are on year-round sailing spots that can't be beat. OK. One question:

1. Why a 25 and not a 30?
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Economics

Mark

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mfasis
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 19:18:56

I think that it is a combination of economics and things like this forum. It is very reassuring to me to know that anything that any work I might attempt on my boat has been done and is probably documented on this site.

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 19:38:06

Well trailers are nice to have......
A few years ago my boat was in a slip in Alameda,Ca and someone posted on this fourm a request for renting a trailer so he could take his boat from a Northern California lake to the Catalina dealer in Santa Rosa,Ca for warranty repairs .
I stuck a good deal....he could use it free if he stored the trailer untill I was ready to move my boat.

paulj C250wk #719

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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 19:49:54

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">OK, so some of you are on year-round sailing spots that can't be beat. OK. One question:

1. Why a 25 and not a 30?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

http://www.geocities.com/duanewolff/c25401a.pdf

I disagree with your answer Mark - at least as a complete answer, there are a lot of people that have 25's for a lot of reasons.

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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 20:08:13

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Admin
 [quote]I disagree with your answer Mark - at least as a complete answer, there are a lot of people that have 25's for a lot of reasons.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Agreed, there are different reasons for different people! I've detailed my reasoning elsewhere, but MY short answer to the SPECIFIC question asked, "why a 25 and not a 30?" still can be summed up as economics.

Mark

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 20:26:05

for me it is becoming a capacity issue. Economically there will be minimal financial impact (after initial outlay) in terms of increased costs.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 20:50:14

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">"for me it is becoming a capacity issue. Economically there will be minimal financial impact (after initial outlay) in terms of increased costs."
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Duane, that is quite a concept. I didn't know there was such a possibility with a boat!!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 21:17:01

I already pay for a 42 foot dock, launch and haulout are included in the dock costs. So right off the bat I'm where I was with regard to expenses. I do my own bottom work and repairs - etc so its 40 bucks more a season for the additional quart of bottom paint. I step my own mast - even on the 30 footer -- so that is zero increase.

Am I missing anything?

Insurance goes up but that is a quarterly deal so its minimal increase amortized over the year. Down the road if we need new sails or new lines etc it will cost more plus we will have to winterize the engine, but overall I consider the increase to be "minimal impact"

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 21:21:08

Duane, did ya get the O'Day?

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/28/2007 : 21:36:34

Not yet John - still have The Flying Wasp. Just talking hypothetically right now.

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Response Posted - 03/29/2007 : 06:56:53

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">talking hypothetically<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Duane, is that the name of your new boat ?

Paul

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/29/2007 : 07:11:32

Haven't decided yet...mostly because I don't have a new boat yet!!!Quit Jinxing me

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/29/2007 : 10:50:23

What! A superstitious sailor? Never!

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