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Ben
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Initially Posted - 11/22/2006 :  12:47:01  Show Profile
Hi folks,

I received two quotes so far for a 170% headsail for my boat.

From Doyle Sails in Cleveland:
$1,297.00 for mylar
$1,098.00 for Dacron

From North Sails in Vermillion:
$1,512.00 for mylar
$1,060.00 for Dacron

The mylar from North is just too far out of my price range, but the other options are very do-able. What do ya'll think. Do I need mylar? This is mainly for our club's Wednesday night races where winds often are very light.

Being in the sail-making industry must be great because you evidently don't have to return voicemails or emails. I must have called or emailed five different lofts from our links page who never returned my call.

One thing I need to investigate too, is adding a length of genoa track the each side of the boat, as mine regrettably has the track that ends at the combing winches. Any ideas on that as well?

Thanks ya'll!!

And most importantly, have a wonderful, and safe, Thanksgiving holiday!!! Eat till it hurts. Don't fight with your in-laws.
Ben
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Columbus, Ohio
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/22/2006 :  12:53:58  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Call Richard At Sobstad. - check your email first
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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 11/22/2006 :  13:14:25  Show Profile
I've found Harry at EP Sails very responsive and helpful even on things not directly related to his sails.

949-645-6697
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Alan Clark
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Response Posted - 11/26/2006 :  16:20:12  Show Profile
Ben, We have a 170% Light Air Sail for "Leprechaun"...to put it Bluntly it IS a BIG ___ sail .your handicap for a 170 when you race maybe a "handicap" also depending on rating system. Our 170 % is a Light air drifter.. Also has thinner sheets with it... Since we have now bought a roller furling we are debating wether or not to cut the hanks off the 170 and put a rope on it for light air or sell it..Hope you and yours had a wonderfull turkey day!
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djn
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Response Posted - 11/26/2006 :  16:33:01  Show Profile
I like the guys at Kent Sail. They are heavy into racing and cruising and have been in business for a long time. Cheers.

http://www.kentsail.com/ks.swf
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/26/2006 :  16:52:50  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Hey one item to note regarding PHRF Ratings and the Bigger sail.

Most if not all PHRF associations are going to give you the penalty for the sail. (probably between 3 and 6 seconds per mile maybe more) The kick in the pants comes when you don't get to use the sail but still carry the penalty. Keep in mind the penalty is for having the sail, not using it. That is a big price to pay for a few light air days. Check with your PHRF org first.

I would contend you'd get better mileage out of a nice 155% LP mylar or similar laminate sail, a cleaner bottom and a smarter jib trimmer.

I'd also check to see that the other guy's 170 LP sail carries the penalty. (I'll send you an email off line to see how he lines up with the rest of the world)

dw
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wmeinert@kconline.com
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Response Posted - 11/27/2006 :  08:59:19  Show Profile
Heres a thought, why not buy a Asemetrical spinaker, they are 185 and if you don't use it theres no penalty and you can make up your mind when to use it based on the race conditions. Personally having a doyle mylar 155 I find in light winds 0-4 knts they are difficult to use effecently, I would recommend a drifter that is much lighter to use and works well in light wind. Also if you are going to have such a wide veerity of sails you may want to concider a dual head foil system so you can change sails very quickly. Harkin has just come out with one for our small boats that I have my eye on.
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