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existentialsailor
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Initially Posted - 06/27/2006 :  19:24:32  Show Profile
A good read...

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=27720&st=0&p=573393#entry573393
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Ericson33
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Response Posted - 06/27/2006 :  21:44:37  Show Profile  Visit Ericson33's Homepage
Thanks Rick :)
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SailCO26
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Response Posted - 06/28/2006 :  09:34:57  Show Profile  Visit SailCO26's Homepage
Good read, and some great info! I'm still a newbie on the CP25, and I definitely have a tendency to oversteer. I *promise* I'll work on that tonight!

A fair amount of discussion re backwinding the jib. While I agree that an extended backwinding session is akin to riding the brakes (there's a reason one backwinds the jib when laying ahull), BUT what I try to do is let it backwind just ever so briefly, ie about the time the sail hits the mast is when the trimmer begins his/her release. I'd guess we're talking about 0.5sec time where there's any pressure at all on the "back" side of the sail.

Anything sooner than this and the sail starts flogging, wearing on the sail. Plus I like to carry any little power I can for as long as possible. Too much later than this, the bow goes around TOO fast, the boat slows down, and I have to use too much rudder to hold desired course (big time braking action, I'd probably be better off to let her foot to more of a reach and maintain boat speed to get the foils in play and THEN head back up....). Oh yeah, and by this time the genoa is flappin over the rail, so by the time it gets trimmed in that nice low foot gets caught on the lifeline and needs to be skirted (before the trimmer gets over-zealous and trims the stancion right thru the sail!).

Right on the timing, and the bow will get just a lil bit of help around, without too much slowing - and the trimmer should be able to hand-trim the genoa in to power-mode before the foot goes over the line, and the boat (theoretically, as I said I'm working on this still!) settles about 5-10' low of course with not much rudder action (conditions depending, maybe even with me moving to the lee side as the boat comes to course, to help weight-shift steer rather than rudder-steer).

Again, conditions depending I may stay on the lee rail. I've always preferred to drive from there, I can see leeward traffic better - but hopefully soon all the leeward traffic will be BEHIND me!

I've sailed the last 3 races with 5 crew total. I'm doing tonight with 4. I think 5 is too many, and too much weight (I'm still looking for that 120# athletic/smart hottie to work foredeck...), as I've not been able to point anywhere near as well as I could that first race when there were just 2 of us aboard.

And I PROMISE, PROMISE, PROMISE that I'll drive smoooooother tonight!

My $0.02.
Jim
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Response Posted - 06/28/2006 :  10:16:10  Show Profile  Visit Ericson33's Homepage
Photos or it never happened. Good Luck tonight and have fun. My big stick is still down, and I am still waiting on the new headstay................Sigh
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