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Cate
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Initially Posted - 04/13/2006 : 08:38:19

I am usually asking questions on this forum because I am a new Catalina-25 owner, but I wanted to share our bottom painting experience last fall. The PO had used cayenne pepper mixed with bottom paint on the boat. He had it in bay salt water for 3 years. When the boat came out for inspection there were no barnacles and very little organic growth. I was amazed! We decided to re-paint the bottom and the keel since the boat was out and needed new zinc. On the keel we ground off the loose iron, put on a coat of rustoleum, new zinc and cayenne mixed bottom paint. The whole job took 3 full days and looked beautiful in the end. I expect there will be no barnacles on the bottom for the next few years.

1983 C-25, Standard rig, swing keel

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 04/13/2006 : 19:18:07

Cate, that is an excellent tip and one that only well connected sailors know. We have a long time poster here on the forum who professes the same recipe. It is one of those tips that you need to be certain to execute at the only possible moment. I have wanted to try it and never remember; written launch lists sure are a good idea.

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Response Posted - 04/13/2006 : 20:03:08

So, what's the recipe? I will be bottom painting soon, and might give it a try. How much cayenne per gallon? Does it matter what kind of bottom paint you are using.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 04/13/2006 : 20:16:15

Hey guys, wasn't it Doug with the Alberg? Trista

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/13/2006 : 20:47:53

Being somewhat analytical in nature, I'd like to see how the same bottom paint does side by side all season without the cayenne.

I think it was doug on triska

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Cate
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Response Posted - 04/14/2006 : 07:53:34

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by mcollard
 So, what's the recipe? I will be bottom painting soon, and might give it a try. How much cayenne per gallon? Does it matter what kind of bottom paint you are using. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Mike,
We used a gallon of bottom paint from Siperstein's, forgot which brand, and used one bottle of McCormick's cayenne pepper. Just dumped it in and mixed it up. It didn't change the color of the paint, but you could see the tiny red specks.

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Response Posted - 04/14/2006 : 08:28:07

One of my other hobbies is cooking chili in competition. I buy my spices from www.penderys.com
in Fort Worth. They have cayenne with different strengths (as measured in Scoville heat units). I'd try the hottest stuff they have (60K). Their cayenne is usually ground very finely. They sell all kinds of spices, much cheaper than the grocery store!

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Response Posted - 04/14/2006 : 08:41:09

Bruce -

I too love to make chili - I'd love to try one of your non-competition declassified recipes if you have any.

dw

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tinob
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Response Posted - 04/14/2006 : 10:37:08

Scotch bonnets would be the pepper of choice. Hottest pepper on the planet. I grew a bunch of them two years ago and left them to dry in the greenhouse and then put on an ablative paint that has given me the results hoped for with pepper. This will be the fourth season with this paint. It is embarrassingly effective.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936 Patchogue, N.Y.

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Response Posted - 04/17/2006 : 23:44:22

What kind of bottom paint did you use Cate? I looked at your excellent website - and was unsure if you are using ablative or a hard paint.
I'm in the middle of my own bottom job and have decided on VC 17...would also like to know the quantity of cayenne pepper you added to your gallon of paint.

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Response Posted - 04/18/2006 : 09:28:59

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by stampeder
 What kind of bottom paint did you use Cate? I looked at your excellent website - and was unsure if you are using ablative or a hard paint.
I'm in the middle of my own bottom job and have decided on VC 17...would also like to know the quantity of cayenne pepper you added to your gallon of paint. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I used a bottom paint from Sipersteins (NJ paint store)-store brand. Not sure what ablative vs. hard paint is. Local sailors said Siperstein bottom paint was excellent and cheaper than most. We put one bottle of McCormick's cayenne pepper in the gallon. Other posters have suggested other HOT pepper.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 04/18/2006 : 10:23:30

If you were to rub your hand over your bottom paint would you get powdery paint on your hand? Ablative paint wears off (ablates).
The color of your paint looks the same as the color I associate with ablative paint, so I wanted to be sure.

Regarding the cayenne pepper, what size of bottle? Would it be the 3 oz.?

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Response Posted - 04/18/2006 : 23:52:10

Val,

I hate to disagree with anyone on this forum but according to the Scoville scale, the Scotch Bonnet is not the hottest recorded pepper. For the hottest pepper on record you would need a Habenero.

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 04/19/2006 : 07:10:44

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by StSimon
 Val,

I hate to disagree with anyone on this forum but according to the Scoville scale, the Scotch Bonnet is not the hottest recorded pepper. For the hottest pepper on record you would need a Habenero.
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OK ... I thought Scotch Bonnet was just another name for Habanero ... I decided to Google it. 'Turns out the Scotch Bonnet and Habanero are the "same," except for the color. It also turns out that neither the Scotch Bonnet nor the Habanero is the world's hottest pepper ... here's the scoop:

Habanero and Scotch Bonnet are the most commonly grown varieties of the pepper species Capsicum chinense. This species comes in many forms of pods ranging from round, top-shaped, long, or lantern-shaped. Colors can range from white, yellow, orange, red, and brown when ripe.

The red Capsicum chinense pods are known as Scotch Bonnet. Habanero is the name usually used for the orange lantern-shaped pods. The Habanero when ripe or dried and powdered has a unique apricot scent.

There have been many erroneous claims that Habanero is the world's hottest pepper, but that title actually belongs to the Bird Peppers, the wild forms of Capsicum annuum.

So there you go ... you learn something new every day!

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Music Man
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Response Posted - 04/24/2006 : 21:32:07

Yup, definitely Doug recommending the Cayenne pepper. I'm painting the bottom of Banana Wind on May 16th and the pepper will be mixed....Doug's 29' Alberg "Triska" has gone 3 years with hardly any growth at all. In (relatively)warm summer Puget Sound waters that's really something.

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Charlie
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Response Posted - 04/26/2006 : 22:02:24

So what is the appropriate amount of pepper to add?

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/26/2006 : 22:18:39

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Buzz Maring
 There have been many erroneous claims that Habanero is the world's hottest pepper, but that title actually belongs to the Bird Peppers, the wild forms of Capsicum annuum.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Hmmmmm... I ran across something in Bangkok--skinny and orange--that put me into convulsions. If there's something hotter than that, it only belongs in a chemical lab. It ain't food!

But Capsicum annuum covers the sweet pepper used to make Paprika, as well as Cayenne. I'll keep my bet on those orange thingies that ruined my night.

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