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suttergold
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Initially Posted - 03/27/2006 : 18:38:38

I am purchasing a Catalina 250 WB in two weeks. I have been searching the forum and there is little said about the centerboard. I downloaded the Catalina 250 Manual but there is little information about the subject.
How is the centerboard lowered and raised? Any photo's out there?

"Knot On Call"

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 03/27/2006 : 19:21:01

Welcome to the board Mathew,
glad to hear there will be another WB around.

The Swing Keel is raised and lowered by a rope and pulley system.
The line exits from the cabin just aft of the Companionway in the cockpit.
There is a cleat between the two leg retainers (used when you move the cabin table to the cockpit)
Pull like hell on the line and you pull up the swing keel, slacken off the line and the keel will drop under it's own weight. The friction of the block and tackle (located aft of the cabin steps) is enough to slow the drop enough to make it safe.

Is it a new boat? Do you know the hull number yet?

It's an awesome feeling knowing that your boat is on it's way... the good news is that it doesn't go away!

paul

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jking
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Response Posted - 03/27/2006 : 20:04:23

suttergold:

I too am about to be the proud papa of a new 250 WB (#888.) I have been browsing this forum for a couple of months, and I keep getting more and more excited about my purchase.

Where will you sail?
It would be nice to compare our delivery and commissioning experienes; my local dealer is great, I wish the same for you.

John King
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Tentatively 'MAD Mom'

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/27/2006 : 20:18:35

Paul - Is it really a swing keel or a centerboard - big difference..???

Duane

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suttergold
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Response Posted - 03/27/2006 : 21:00:19

It is not a new Catalina 250 WB. It is a 1995 and I will have it in a slip at Lake Camanche, California. I will also be taking it to Lake Tahoe for a couple of long weekends this summer.
I will be getting it in two weeks. I have a 1986 Catalina 22 Swing Keel. Hopefully it will be sold soon, having two boats is not a very good thing.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 03/27/2006 : 22:33:14

I always thought that a centerboard and dagger board were much alike, whereas a swing keel is just that... it swings..

...like a pendulum do...

Paul

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Russ.Johnson
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Response Posted - 03/27/2006 : 23:41:32

Suttergold,
We have a water ballast and mainly sail on the San Francisco bay.
We've sailed on Clearlake and know some folks on Folsom Lake.
Lake Camanche isn't too far away, but haven't sailed there.

Anyway, the printed brochure has pictures from both water-ballast and winged-keel models.
The website has separate links for water-ballast and winged-keel models, but they share the same interior pictures.
There are no interior pictures of the water-ballast.

Here's some of the differences between the models.
Winged-keel interior: More headroom, Fixed-pedestal table, shelf above sink, swing-up stairs, and bilge access in front of stairs.
Water-ballast interior: Less headroom, removable table (above centerboard trunk), fixed stairs mounted on ballast-tank step,
centerboard control lines behind stairs, and bilge access behind the stairs.

Winged-keel exterior: Mainsheet traveler, Tall-rig option, and Narrow spreaders.
Water-ballast exterior: No mainsheet traveler, centerboard control lines below mainsheet, mounting brackets for the cabin table (next to the centerboard lines), and wider spreaders (on early models, narrow spreaders on newer models).

If you have a '95 then you have the wider spreaders and I think no cockpit corner seats (I think they were added in '97).

This is whole lot more than you asked for, but reading the forum for about a year, I got confused when folks talk about topics on a different boats.
Click on the user name to the left and send me an e-mail sometime.
Russ (#793)

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s3tbuell
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Response Posted - 03/29/2006 : 12:22:19

I believe it would be a centerboard not a swing keel. The difference as I know it is the keel has the righting weight were as the centerboard does not.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 03/29/2006 : 18:44:00

so, what's the weight of the keel on a c250WB.

I'm going to guess it's around 400lbs plus.

Paul

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Russ.Johnson
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Response Posted - 03/29/2006 : 18:57:14

Paul,
When my centerboard was removed, it was about 80-100 lbs.
Here's a link to a related topic. [url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11971"]Centerboard Noise - More Than Shims[/url]
Russ (#793)

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paulb
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Response Posted - 03/30/2006 : 00:49:49

Hi Suttergold,

The swing keel weighs about 90 lbs. I would recommend you check the raising cable, the brass turning block, and the lifting block inside the keel housing. Check to see if the retrofit kit has been installed or if you still have the old steel cable.

I have a 96 WB and have done many mods to it thanks to the suggestions and Ideas from this forum, other sailors, and my own experiences having owned a C-22, a Potter 19, Macgregor 26, (classic) and a Harman 20.

I sail on nearby Don Pedro and New Melones Lakes in the winter months (if winter ever ends!), in June, I spend a couple of weeks in Lake Tahoe. As soon as school is out, my daughter and I head for the Pacific Northwest for a couple of months of Island hopping and exploring from Anacortes to Desolation sound.

If you are interested in tieing in at any of these places should our paths cross, I would really be interested.

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