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tmark
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Initially Posted - 10/07/2005 :  23:59:57  Show Profile
I just bought Lazy Jacks made by Schaefer. The destructions [sic] tell me I need to put an 2 eye straps 4/5ths (80%) of the length of the mast up the mast using a Bosun's chair. Just guessing that is about 20ft up from the deck. I know for a fact I'm not going to get in no stinkin' Bosun's chair. Is it possible to lash a ladder to the mast? Just hire somebody to do it? Or send it back?
Terry C250 WK #857
Matthew 16:2-3...Gone Sailing
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DrDre
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Response Posted - 10/08/2005 :  01:54:28  Show Profile
Damnit man, be not afraid! Be brave. Tie a large bowline in your main halyard, stand up and have your 1st hoist you up to drill the eyes in. Or you could make your own chair and get up there that way. From what I've seen you should set them just above the spreaders, and that's not to far up.

Take lot of pictures, because these things are good for the rest of us.

Best of luck,

Andre'
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stewendkos
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Response Posted - 10/08/2005 :  02:14:33  Show Profile
I'd hire somebody, and have him look things over while he was up there.I'm 65 so a little less daring or ?????. I sent a rigger up recently and it cost 45 dollars which included some other repairs------Well worth it.
Steve
"My Doll" C250 692
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Steve Raffel
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Response Posted - 10/08/2005 :  11:53:09  Show Profile
Did you consider a Dutchman rather than the Lazy Jacks? It requires replacing the backstay and a sailmaker to install plastic disks in your sail, plus zipper in your sail cover. I had it done and like it very much. The advantage that I see is it is a much simpler system than Lazy Jacks.
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Steve Raffel
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Response Posted - 10/08/2005 :  11:54:56  Show Profile
Correction - it requires replacing the topping lift not the back stay.
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Jim Mc
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Response Posted - 10/08/2005 :  21:24:16  Show Profile
Steve:
The Dutchman systems is one of my projects for next season. We currently have a Lazy Jack arrangement and don't like it. It is more trouble than it is worth. What is a ball park cost to have the Dutchman added ? Do you just send the sail to a loft and have them do the work ?
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Steve Raffel
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Response Posted - 10/08/2005 :  22:01:51  Show Profile
I live in CT so I had Hathaway Reiser and Raymond in Stamford do it. The modification to the sail does require a sailmaker. You can contact Dutchman to find a local sailmaker they recommend. I did it 6 years ago and can't remember what I paid. Overall, we have been very satisfied with it. It is especially helpful when you reef in a blow, because it gives you much better control of the main.
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tmark
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Response Posted - 10/08/2005 :  22:44:05  Show Profile
Steve here is a site that will do the whole thing for about $645. [Dutchman ] So far I am only into this for $235 and don't have to make any sail or boot changes. From the drawings it looks as though it is as backwards as the boom vang was. It shows the cleat on the boom next to the mast. I suppose I can run it back to the cockpit so I will be able to loosen it without going forward. I don't want it to be like a topping lift, boom vang or main sheet while undersail.

Andre, did you want the pictures from the top of the mast, from the deck up after the fall or from the hospital.
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tmark
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Response Posted - 10/08/2005 :  22:51:51  Show Profile
Sorry about that Steve something ran afoul. www.sailchoice.com/dutchman.html
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frog0911
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Response Posted - 10/10/2005 :  09:43:09  Show Profile
I ordered my Dutchman from the factory at a cost of $425. The topping lift is a continues loop which allows the lowering of the Dutchman mainsail lines so no modification of the mainsail cover is required. I don't know what the cost of the mainsail modification would be, but there are really two items required on the mainsail. The plastic disks for the lines and pockets at the foot for securing them. The system that came with the boat is the "C" system 30-2.
The system works great, and as previously mentioned, is really a big plus if you goof up and have to reef late in a blow.
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Robert
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Response Posted - 10/10/2005 :  17:50:26  Show Profile
I had a Dutchman system on my H35.5 and ended up taking it off. Be very careful about keeping the cat gut lines clean. If salt spray and dirt get on the lines, they become saw blades that will cut right through your sail cloth during the rasing and lowering process. Also the disks that are supposed to protect the edges of the sail through which they pass kept coming off. On my C250, I have an EZjack system that allows the lazy jacks to be folded back to the mast when not in use. They are great. The only draw back to the system is that the bungee cordage that forms the detachable cradle on the boom has to be replaced every couple of years in our hot summers.
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