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Outboard Motor Bracket on C250 2003

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stewendkos
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Initially Posted - 09/21/2005 : 23:10:49

To increase the range of the outboard motor tiller, I need to install either a stationary bracket or spring bracket. I have a Honda 8HP. Does anybody have either of the two and which works best for you? Exact number and manufacture of either bracket would be very helpful. Catalina advices me to a stationary bracket but I'd rather use the spring type. Easier and closer to tramsom. Really need advice. I'd appreciate an email contact if possible.
stewendkos@cox.net. I am trying to improve my steering ability in close quarters.

Steve Wendkos
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frog0911
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Response Posted - 12/31/1999 : 20:50:31

David, the easiest fix is to remove the bottom starboard screw from the transom motor mounting plate, fill the hole with 5200 and slide the motor to starboard until the engine tiller, when up, clears the fuel box. You will find that it this will allow total rotation of the motor. Here are some pictures that might help you see how it works.

THe right motor mount flange is off the plate about 1/4 inch, but is does not effect the capability of locking down the motor.

I then installed Aryln's soft link and it works great. The only thing that would make it better is if shifter was on the front of the motor like the 2006 model.

THIS IS THE POST THAT GOT LOST WITH THE DECEMBER DATE

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DanM
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Response Posted - 09/22/2005 : 08:54:01

Welcome to the forum!
There were some posts about motor brackets earlier this summer. You can use the search option in the upper right corner of this page to find the recommendations.
The 4stroke Honda 8hp is pretty heavy, and you will need a bracket with beefy springs. I will be replacing my bracket after haulout, since my new Nissan 9.8hp is so much heavier it requires a block&tackle assist.

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River Harley
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Response Posted - 09/23/2005 : 00:37:36

I had the outboard bracket from Catalina installed shortly after the purchase of my WK250 (2002). The reason was I found that most outboard motors - except for 2 strokes - were cramped when mounted on the "built-in" mount area. I wanted to link the motor to the tiller for tandem movement which makes manuevering the 250 much easier in tight areas (such as moorages). Because of the 250's high freeboard, breezes in moorages can be problematic. With the tandem movement of motor and tiller, ther problem is solved. Hence, the after-market bracket facilitates this arrangement greatly - whether using a four stroke or two stroke. Hope this helps.

River Harley

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Auburn80
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Response Posted - 09/23/2005 : 11:50:43

What do you use to link the motor & tiller? Is tilting the motor for sailing an issue with your linkage? TIA!

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River Harley
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Response Posted - 09/26/2005 : 02:25:58

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Auburn80
 What do you use to link the motor & tiller? Is tilting the motor for sailing an issue with your linkage? TIA!
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I used a link system designed by Arlyn Stewart - another forum member. It consists of a bungee cord and "hard" line. The system can be viewed on Arlyn's own site under his "Tech Tips." It works great and is inexpensive. Tilting the motor is not an issue because it can be attached and detached quickly. I don't use the system unless I'm in tight places. Otherwise, I just detach it and tighten the motor to center, allowing for tilting.
Arlyn's site is: http://stewartfam.net/arlyn

River Harley

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stewendkos
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Response Posted - 10/08/2005 : 01:50:13

We'll, we went with the soft link and the motor tiller straight up.It's a God- send and works more than perfect.No bracket,and she turns on a dime.

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dwadle
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Response Posted - 10/12/2005 : 12:17:16

On my 2005 250 wk I have a 9.8 Tohatsu. When I lift the tiller up, it still hits the transom and fuel locker. So I think I need a bracket. Did you locate any manufacturers? How about installation? Does Catalina offer any drawings etc. on how and where to mount it?

dmw

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stewendkos
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Response Posted - 10/12/2005 : 14:26:11

David, I have done lots of research on the brackets and chose not to buy one for my Honda 8/9.9. I lift that tiller up so it does clear the transom for tight spots and use a soft link to the rudder tiller (see Arlyn's soft link). As far as the bracket, Catalina Parts Dept. recommends and sells (Danny in Parts) a stationary bracket for $75.00. Garhauer (Upland, CA) sells a heavy duty 4-spring bracket (up & down type) for $210. I chose not to go with the stationary because of the difficulty in tilting the motor being so far out. As far as installation, the Catalina Bracket self-explanatory even has the scupper hole in place and the spring bracket comes with instructions.
Personally, I'd forget the bracket and use the soft link. Let me know. Steve stewendkos@cox.net

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stewendkos
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Response Posted - 10/12/2005 : 14:28:33

David, one other thing, you can probably find Arlyn's soft link under Tech tips on our forum or in the archives. I did. Steve

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dwadle
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Response Posted - 10/12/2005 : 19:45:50

but when I lift the tiller arm of the motor, it still does not clear the fiberglass. So I think i'm stuck with getting a bracket so that the motor can turn both directions.

dmw

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wallymackinnon
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Response Posted - 10/12/2005 : 22:00:18

Hello;

I have a 2004, 250 wb and a Yamaha 9.9. When I first installed the outboard in the transom notch, I could not turn the motor in its full direction to allow me to turn the boat to starboard because the control handle on the motor hit the side of the gas tank locker (in the center of the transom), preventing a maximum turn in that direction. After much contemplation I decided to take the control handle off and mount it on the front of the motor. Problem solved & it is actually easier to control the motor when manouvering in tight quarters. I also linked the motor and the tiller handle together with a short piece of wood from the back end of the tiller handle to the back of the outboard engine cowling. Now I can swing the rudder and the motor in tandem using the tiller handle. This has dramatically improved manouverability at low speed in my marina. Unfortunatley, the boat is put up for winter storage so I cannot take a photo to show you. The cost of these modifications amounted to less than $10. I will be happy to share more details of my "fix" to anyone who wants to know.

Wally MacKinnon
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frog0911
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Response Posted - 10/17/2005 : 22:22:34

STEVE,THIS IS YOUR POST THAT GOT LOST WHEN I POSTED MY REPLY AND THE DATE POSTED CAME UP 12-31-99.
Check the pictures and if the 06 boat has more room than my 04 you should not even have to move the motor. If not this will work and save you a few boat units.

Edited by - frog0911 on 10/17/2005 22:26:44

dwadle
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Response Posted - 11/01/2005 : 10:18:32

when you move the motor over, is the clap screwing onto the fiberglass? Will this mar it?

dmw

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frankr
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Response Posted - 11/01/2005 : 21:04:45

here are some pictures of my 2003 C250K's motor mount and E-Z Steer linkage. I removed the throttle/tiller handle since I have remote start and shift there is no need for it unless the linkage falls off - I keep the throttle/tiller handle in the bilge under the aft berth. Steers great - get a little vibration off the swim ladder

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dwadle
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Response Posted - 11/02/2005 : 10:46:37

great photos! Thank you. When you are sailing, do you disconnect the linkage and tilt up the motor?

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frankr
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Response Posted - 11/02/2005 : 12:37:37

Depends - it the winds are light and seas reasonable - yes I disconnect at the rudder and tilt up motor - if blowing and rough seas the two stay coupled and the motor stays in the water. (I'm not concerned about the 1/2 knot speed loss)

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 11/02/2005 : 16:07:55

When you move the motor over only about 1/4 inch of the clamp is off the metal and never touches the fiberglass.

Edited by - frog0911 on 01/24/2006 22:38:59

kevinmac
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Response Posted - 01/25/2006 : 11:09:28

Frankr,

This is the kind of installation I have been thinking of doing for my boat. But how do you disconnect the linkage when under way? Do you have to lay down on the fuel box or something to reach it? I tried imagining this on my boat yesterday, and it seemed like the linkage would be pretty far away from the cockpit, because it is so low. But I could not see an easy way to install the motor end of the bracket higher, because my Yamaha 8HP has nothing but smooth fibreglass high up, at the level of the upper pintle/gudgeon.

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