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Tomas Kruska
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Initially Posted - 08/01/2011 : 04:01:43

I was just walking through the craigslist and found this "interesting" interior modification. See how roomy the C25 is:

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 06:02:31

looks like some stiffness in the hull/boat is now gone. I recall conversation onremoving a door header met with skepticism.....this is definitely a structural change, and not a do-it yourself without proper reinforcement.......

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 06:05:29

Hmmmm, interestng head.

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 06:14:40

they should have trimmed the port side to mirror starboard...might have retained more structural integrity...IMHO...and what's up with all those tchatkas cluttering the place, is the globe necessary or just wishful thinking???

Edited by - jerlim on 08/01/2011 06:19:51

Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 06:40:50

A sign says "Gone sailing"... On what?

The head is the new, 200 gallon Porta-Potti.

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 08/01/2011 06:42:08

Renzo
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 07:35:03

Very pretty Floating Cottage

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 07:57:04

Looks a lot like he was trying to mimic the C250. So, I kinda like it!

Probably OK for a daysailer but, I'd be worried about structure if any weather popped up. I wonder what the folks at Catalina say about the bulkheads that were removed. Are they structurally necessary? It seems to have similar kind of "rib" amidships as the C250, just not as beefy.

Edit: Just noticed that the "rib" doesn't extend all the way across the overhead so it was probably only the attachment point for the bulkheads and provides no real structure. Wonder what it feels like walking on the deck?

Edited by - John Russell on 08/01/2011 08:00:00

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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 10:16:53

Ya, he removed the two forward bulkheads (at the v-berth) completely and left only enough of the aft port bulkhead to support the side-deck. The "rib" is indeed just a "tab" for the bulkhead, with little structural significance by itself. I think a naval architect would say those bulkheads were factored into the structural design, and removing them isn't a great idea. (Plus, I presume the boat is now class-illegal and doesn't qualify for a standard C-25 handicap number. But it doesn't look like he was racing...)

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 10:31:25

Yuk. Don't like the great room concept. Also want some privacy when I go or sleep. What's great about the C-25 is it has the classic look but not this one anymore.

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Tomas Kruska
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 10:32:34

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
 A sign says "Gone sailing"... On what?

The head is the new, 200 gallon Porta-Potti.
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tbosch
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 10:48:47

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by jerlim
 ... is the globe necessary or just wishful thinking???
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Maybe the globe is a backup for the gps ;)

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piseas
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 11:39:57

Ya I like the openness of it as well. Re privacy, looks like above the lantern are those twig privacy slats which are now rolled up. Makes boat look larger. I just wonder if the globe, light and other misc. stuff goes while sailing or are they held down with velcro?
Steve A

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 13:22:23

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DaveR
 .... What's great about the C-25 is it has the classic look .....<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">You're exactly right, Dave. I love my 250 and would buy it again but, I envy the more traditional look.

The only privacy on the 250 is in the head.

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jrchase11
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Response Posted - 08/02/2011 : 19:37:42

My PO told me he called Catalina and they told him the forward bulkheads (separating the v-berth from the head and the sink) were non-structural but the ones with chainplates in them are definitely structural.

while I will not put the forward sink back in, I may put the bulkehads in just to create some privacy in the case someone needs to use the head in the middle of the night. naturally if #2 is involved all will know via their noses but at least there will be some privacy for the offender.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 08/08/2011 : 04:55:29

This is one of the few modifications that I have seen to the VBerth area. I like the openness that the owner accomplished and it certainly is a complete modification - very presentable.

I am not ready and not sure if I ever will be ready to accomplish a major VBerth modification but my thinking would be to create more useability of the VBerth area as a true sleep option rather than increase the openness. I would also be concerned about reducing structural integrity if too much of the bulkhead(s) are removed. Perhaps, remove most of sink side forward bulkhead or contour both forward bulkheads to allow extending the sleeping area but retain the porta potti location and main cabin bulkhead (for privacy from main cabin and companionway).

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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 08/12/2011 : 04:28:07

Very interesting. Yes, the openness is nice and provides a very different "feel" to the boat and I have to admire the ambition and moxie of the owner. But -- no private head (or head at all?) and the structural change not only is a real concern for hull integrity, safety in rough weather, etc, etc, but also, I believe, makes the boat uninsurable or at best very expensive to insure for vary limited coverage.

If openness is a must, the 250 is the way to go in the Catalina family, or look at older Hunter 25, or Oday 272, or Pearson 27, etc, etc -- all designed and ENGINEERED to be open layouts . . . .

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 08/12/2011 : 17:58:54

Interesting there's no door/hatch? to get under the v-berth.

I would think if one were to cut the port bulkhead back so it mirrored the starboard it would provide sufficient structural support. Why would the port side be structurally different than the starboard?

My guess is it extended to the mast support more for privacy purposes than structural.

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