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zeil
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Initially Posted - 05/02/2015 :  07:11:12  Show Profile
Replaced the bent T Bolts on the rigging yesterday. Inserting a, cut to size, "breadboard", type of material will help to prevent this from happening again. Since it is "friction fit", we'll keep it there as part of the rigging. One less thing to think about...





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Edited by - zeil on 05/04/2015 07:21:12

TakeFive
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Response Posted - 05/02/2015 :  07:51:12  Show Profile
Raising the mast can cause bent T-bolts if the toggles get stuck in the "lying down" position. I assume that this is the problem that you are addressing here.

I have a different way of solving the problem. Before raising the mast, I lift up the T-bolts into the correct vertical position and lash the shrouds to the lifelines with single wrap and a loose hitch. This keeps them in the upright position as the mast comes up, preventing any bending. Once the mast is up all the way, the shrouds pull away from the lifelines, and the lashings fall off.

Rick S., Swarthmore, PA
PO of Take Five, 1998 Catalina 250WK #348 (relocated to Baltimore's Inner Harbor)
New owner of 2001 Catalina 34MkII #1535 Breakin' Away (at Rock Hall Landing Marina)
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Tradewind
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Response Posted - 05/02/2015 :  14:28:19  Show Profile
I use a bungee cord to attach the shrouds to the lifelines. My first attempt raising the mast after I bought the boat bent a T-bolt, I used the bungee cord after that. I think I got that idea from this board a few years ago.

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Steve
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delliottg
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Response Posted - 05/02/2015 :  15:17:35  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
Instead of the piece of UHMW plastic, you might instead try a little blob of Sugru on the end of the toggle to get the same stand off without the potential toe-grabbers. It's flexible after it sets, it's sort of like moldable rubber that sets to hard rubber. I've used it for several things on the boat and so far it's working well.

David
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britinusa
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Response Posted - 05/02/2015 :  15:54:24  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Ahh! a fellow Sugruer

I keep several packs in my fridge.

Paul

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 05/03/2015 :  04:40:50  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
I like Henk's design.
The bar links the two T-Bolts thus keeping them aligned.

And I would guess there is enough flex in the bar to allow enough movement so that they self align when the mast is raised.

Paul

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zeil
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Response Posted - 05/03/2015 :  08:58:39  Show Profile
Thanks for the suggestion guys... I like your input and ideas.

The "friction fit", spacer can be made/cut shorter, so it won't catch anything but am not sure it won't vibrate a bit forward or back over time and therefore left ample material for now.

As Paul points out the spacer keeps the two T-Bolts aligned and yet allows for some required individual movement.

The material is pretty tough, can be hammered into position and does not require much, if any, maintenance

Regardless, it provides one less thing to worry about during mast-raising and... less chance of the shrouds scraping the window-surface during transportation.

Give it a try and see if you like it... (the only thing suffering maybe your wife's bread-cutting board)




Henk & Johanna
"Floating", a few off your "barnacles".
"Someday Lady" '95 C250WB #151 ('03 - 2016)
"Sea ya" 30ft Bayliner (04-2018 - 09-2018)
"Mariah" '96 C250WB #191 (05-2019 - 15-05-2023)
"Lady J" '00 C250WK #499 (05-2021 - 09-2022)

Edited by - zeil on 05/03/2015 09:16:18
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djbano
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Response Posted - 05/05/2015 :  13:48:27  Show Profile  Visit djbano's Homepage
Zip ties work fine.

CYANA
Denver
'98 250 WK TR #372
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