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For those who don't know, I earned my degree of Juris Doctor (law) in 1968, and practiced law continuously until my retirement a few years ago. I specialized in trials and appeals, and in all aspects of administrative law, and taught dozens of seminars on administrative law to other lawyers, judges, legislators, and many other government officials from all across the United States. I was admitted to the practice of law at every level of the state and federal courts in the US, including the State and US Supreme Courts, and wrote many hundreds of briefs and legal memorandums at every level, including the US Supreme Court. I wrote hundreds of pages of laws, which were subsequently enacted, and not one word of any of my laws has ever been ruled invalid, including a law that was the first of it's kind anywhere in the US, and which received an award for innovation.

You're partially right, John. One of us doesn't know what he's talking about.

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<font face="Comic Sans MS"><font size="2"><font color="navy">I don’t know what it’s like to sit at home with nothing to do but be “retired”.
Posts that make up unsubstantiated claims out of whole cloth are sad to see. Of all the things Mr. Milby claims to have accomplished it would be interesting to see why google can’t find any of them.

The fact is...
Mr. Milby was not privy to the officer’s discussions dealing with venders posting on the forum or venders that felt slighted by posts on the forum.
A policy paper (I wrote it) was published that we as officers are adhering to.
As I stated above the Officers dealt correctly with the issue and protected the members and the Association.

I hope your new sail lives up to your expectations.
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Originally posted by OLarryR


[I]t really is not necessary for individuals to defend themselves or reinforce their positions over others by giving us a history of their credentials....I am sure we all could do the same. Rather, it is thru our postings that we build our so called reputations here as providing thoughtful advice, etc. Once the credentials roll out, it is generally perceived as a sign of weakness. It is kind of like at work when one tries to gain ground on one's position that they may do so by using loud voices. That usually does not work. It is only thru factual and thoughtful postings that we build our respect amongst us all.

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Originally posted by andbarger

I will post some pics when it's hoisted this summer! I think everyone should come sail the Bass Islands on Lake Erie at least once...

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Originally posted by Steve Milby

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Originally posted by OLarryR


[I]t really is not necessary for individuals to defend themselves or reinforce their positions over others by giving us a history of their credentials....I am sure we all could do the same. Rather, it is thru our postings that we build our so called reputations here as providing thoughtful advice, etc. Once the credentials roll out, it is generally perceived as a sign of weakness. It is kind of like at work when one tries to gain ground on one's position that they may do so by using loud voices. That usually does not work. It is only thru factual and thoughtful postings that we build our respect amongst us all.

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Early in this discussion, Jan Briede asked: "Are there any lawyers among us on this forum that can give us some advice?" I didn't volunteer my "credentials" at that time. I simply offered a little basic "lawyer-like" information.

Then our Vice-Commodore said : "AS usual Milby is way off base and is pontificating on a subject where he has no knowledge."

You have a right to think I should have ignored his remark, and not defended myself, but you'd be wrong. If I hadn't replied to him, then he would have learned that all he had to do to shut me up is to make a similar remark. I don't allow anyone to portray me inaccurately as uninformed. If you don't want to hear my credentials, don't accuse me of being a know-nothing.

Accusations that are unanswered have a way of gaining acceptance and validity in the eyes of people who don't know better. I don't allow accusations to go unanswered. If anyone doesn't like that, they should take their complaint to the accuser, not to me. If I'm wrongly accused by the Vice Commodore or anyone else, I will defend myself.

If you think these discussions are unseemly on our forum, take your complaints to your Vice Commodore, who can't resist making offensive comments like these:

"I don’t know what it’s like to sit at home with nothing to do but be “retired”.

Posts that make up unsubstantiated claims out of whole cloth are sad to see. Of all the things Mr. Milby claims to have accomplished it would be interesting to see why google can’t find any of them."

"AS usual Milby is way off base and is pontificating on a subject where he has no knowledge."

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