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RockB Posted - 12/09/2019 : 20:11:29
Long story short I just picked up a 79 Catalina 25 Swing Keel pop top for the amazing price of Free.

I was watching YouTube one day and was following a couple that had gotten a free sailboat and figured I would give it a try so I posted an add on Craigs list and 12 days later was contacted by the previous owner. Well I guess he is still technically still the owner. We are supposed to get together tomorrow to sign the title and bill of sale and the sails.

Not knowing much about these boats, or sailing in general, I am not sure how to tell if any modifications have been made to it but she is in much better shape than I thought she would be for free. She was overall clean and has a 9.9 Honda 4 stroke, long shaft, electric start, that purrs like a kitten. Fired it up yesterday and ran for a little over 2 hours to move her from the marina to my free bearth behind a family members house.

My background is sailing with my folks from age 5 to about 8 or 9. Started out with a 22, then moved to 27, then 32, then 37. Hurricane got the 37 but by that time Dad and I were more into fishing and diving so we went to power boats.

While attending college I was working marine construction and doing a little vessel maintenance and a yacht broker turned me on to a guy who had a Bruce Roberts either 38 or 48 can't remember wich but it was a big center cockpit. He basically gave me the keys and a list of stiff to fix and said take it out as much as I wanted and fix anything that broke.

Have a list of projects in mind for the C25 but the first is either locating the existing bilge pump or installing one. Was there a standard location for the discharge through hull for a bilge pump on these things?
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Voyager Posted - 12/21/2019 : 15:14:37
Welcome RockB, I believe you will find this group willing to give you advice, perhaps too willing.
That said, it’s never dull.
Just a suggestion, many contributors list their names (optional), boat name and type, approximate location and other information in their signature. Generally helps members understand how best to help.
Steve Milby Posted - 12/21/2019 : 09:05:53
It's possible that a mainsail with an overly long luff could be used without cutting it down by tucking in a reef. Thus, you could use it until you find a suitable replacement.
islander Posted - 12/21/2019 : 08:53:02
On the top left of this forum page you will see Manuals and brochures.
RockB Posted - 12/21/2019 : 08:15:50
quote:
Originally posted by bigelowp

Download the owners manual for your year boat and then measure the mast. As I recall Tall is 32 feet regular 30 -- but check the manual. It will also have sail size luff/leach/foot. Many people to save money will buy used sails for "similar" sail size. What you have may be workable, but if you decide to buy a new sail you should know what you have/need.



bigelowp,

Can you provide a link to where to get that manual?
Stinkpotter Posted - 12/21/2019 : 06:46:13
Wow! If that sail works on your boat, you might also have the J-27's mast. Otherwise, I think it's too big for a C-25 Tall.
bigelowp Posted - 12/20/2019 : 19:48:18
Download the owners manual for your year boat and then measure the mast. As I recall Tall is 32 feet regular 30 -- but check the manual. It will also have sail size luff/leach/foot. Many people to save money will buy used sails for "similar" sail size. What you have may be workable, but if you decide to buy a new sail you should know what you have/need.
RockB Posted - 12/20/2019 : 04:16:12
quote:
Originally posted by keats

quote:
How do I tell if it is a standard or tall?



Bill,

I can't really tell from the photo and the boom may have been moved if you have a non-original sail.

The mast in the standard rig is 28 feet tall and 30 feet on the tall rig. So measuring is one way to find out.

The luff dimension on the standard mainsail is 24'8" and 27'8" on the tall rig.

So the easiest way is to measure from the mast base to the top edge of the boom. 3'4" and it's a standard, 2'4" and it's a tall. This assumes standard sails and that the boom has not been raised and lowered, which may not be the case for you.

Another way to tell is if the boom hits you in the head standing in the cockpit of you are of average height.

If you have a J-27 main it must have been re-cut I would think.



Thank you Keats.

The sails that came with it are:
Main
Luff: 31'8"
Leech: 32'11"
Foot: 11'2"

Jib
Luff:27'3"
Leech 24'8"
Foot 15'3"

If the weather is not too bad Sunday I will go down with a tape measure and pull it up the mast to see what I actually need.
keats Posted - 12/16/2019 : 06:44:45
quote:
How do I tell if it is a standard or tall?



Bill,

I can't really tell from the photo and the boom may have been moved if you have a non-original sail.

The mast in the standard rig is 28 feet tall and 30 feet on the tall rig. So measuring is one way to find out.

The luff dimension on the standard mainsail is 24'8" and 27'8" on the tall rig.

So the easiest way is to measure from the mast base to the top edge of the boom. 3'4" and it's a standard, 2'4" and it's a tall. This assumes standard sails and that the boom has not been raised and lowered, which may not be the case for you.

Another way to tell is if the boom hits you in the head standing in the cockpit of you are of average height.

If you have a J-27 main it must have been re-cut I would think.
RockB Posted - 12/15/2019 : 17:10:48
How do I tell if it is a standard or tall?

PO said sails were for a J-27.
islander Posted - 12/14/2019 : 10:59:21
Wow look at that! Not only was the boat free.... It even floats!
RockB Posted - 12/14/2019 : 07:37:21
If this site is like most everyone wants pictures.

Here she is at anchor.

RockB Posted - 12/14/2019 : 07:06:51
quote:
Originally posted by Stinkpotter


Another good investment is membership here--$22 helps fund this site, home to one of the best communities of owners on the web!



Started the process. If it is like other forums I am a member of it will be worth the $22
bigelowp Posted - 12/13/2019 : 20:33:59
Bill, welcome. Many years ago i too found a "free" C-25. It was anything but "free" after necessary work was done, but it WAS a true pleasure for me, my sailing son, and since for me to solo sail. Great boats, better built than the press claims, excellent support from factory, Catalina Direct, and most of all this Association. Enjoy the ride, it WILL be fun!
JohnP Posted - 12/11/2019 : 14:43:12
Yes, indeed!

I sailed with a buddy for about 10 years. I thought I knew something about sailing. But since buying my own C25 and joining the Association, I've learned about anchoring, fiberglass repairs, boat modifications, heavy weather sailing, gennakers, interior lights, rules of the road, reference books, and many other things. In my opinion, it's worth a fortune!

Also this is the best kind of social networking!
zeil Posted - 12/10/2019 : 10:32:42
quote:
Originally posted by Stinkpotter



Another good investment is membership here--$22 helps fund this site, home to one of the best communities of owners on the web!

Enjoy your "new yacht"!



I'll second that

Stinkpotter Posted - 12/10/2019 : 08:07:14
Welcome Bill! You've found a great resource--this community of owners. (Some are POs who can't break away... ) The Search function (upper right) lets you select a forum such as General Sailing or Catalina 25--both can be useful. If you don't find much among recent discussions, try checking "Archived Posts"--that can take you back years.

Also check out Catalina Direct--a third-party supplier of replacement parts and upgrades to various Catalina models. They know these boats very well, and have parts such as spreader sockets, stem fittings, gudgeons, mast-head sheaves, etc. that are significant improvements over the original equipment. Their C-25 Owner's Handbook is one of the better $20 investments you can make for the boat, even though it's essentially a catalog... It points out various issues and explains their offerings. They've also been helpful to me over the phone.

Another good investment is membership here--$22 helps fund this site, home to one of the best communities of owners on the web!

Enjoy your "new yacht"!
Leon Sisson Posted - 12/09/2019 : 23:10:38
Bill,

Regarding bulge pump upgrades, I recommend reading Don Casey's description of a good bulge pump system. For that matter, read everything Don Casey has written about repairing, maintaining, and upgrading classic fiberglass sailboats.

Also search this forum for answers to any Catalina 25 question you can think of, and plenty you haven't thought of yet. That should keep you occupied at least through the holidays!
keats Posted - 12/09/2019 : 20:41:11
Welcome and good luck, plenty of seasoned advice will be forthcoming from experienced and knowledgeable folks here.

Original manual bilge pump was located in the port locker with a lever actuator in the cockpit. A 1" hose picks up under the cabin sole near the keel and discarges through the transom above the water line.

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