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captnamo
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Initially Posted - 05/28/2021 :  14:43:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My 1980 C25 companionway ladder is connected to the cabin floor by one stainless steel L bracket starboard side. Port side bracket is missing as there are holes where it would have been screwed in. I haven't been able to find an identical replacement.

Does anyone know if there is a replacement part for this or am I going to have to find someone to manufacture one?
--Steve N.

'80 C25 "Serenity" #1746 FK Muskegon, MI

Never approach the dock faster than you want to hit it.

Voyager
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Response Posted - 05/28/2021 :  18:16:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it possible to make a wooden block from teak or mahogany to replace the original stainless piece? I don’t recall how many holes are horizontally mounted into the ladder or how many bolts mount into the floor, but if you match the pattern, you can probably make do until you can fine the right part or a fabricator.
Bruce Ross
Passage ~ SR-FK ~ C25 #5032

Port Captain — Milford, CT
Edited by - Voyager on 05/28/2021 19:18:00
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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 05/28/2021 :  19:15:04  Show Profile  Visit Leon Sisson's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Steve,

Re: "Does anyone know if there is a replacement part for this..."

I suggest you contact Catalina Yachts (or Catalina Direct, their retail parts department) about a replacement.  They have a lot of parts available for these boats.

Re: "...or am I going to have to find someone to manufacture one?"

If Catalina doesn't have it in stock, see if they'll make you one.  They might have the original aluminum angle material laying around, and probably still have the shop drawings.

If you strike out there, I might be able to provide a dimensioned sketch of the part from my 1979 swing keel boat.  By the way, is your boat swing keel or fin?  Because it might make a difference.
— Leon Sisson
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 05/28/2021 :  21:29:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Owners list says the following about the boat and the P.O.:

1746 - Moe'Uhane, 1980 Standard, Fixed Keel
Michael K. MI USA
Bruce Ross
Passage ~ SR-FK ~ C25 #5032

Port Captain — Milford, CT
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 05/29/2021 :  08:24:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After I installed carpet on TSU, I couldn't screw the plates through the carpet and have the screws on the top piece fit flush. I took away the plates and never had a problem with the companionway moving.
Derek Crawford
Chief Measurer C25-250 2008
Previous owner of "This Side UP"
1981 C-25 TR/FK #2262 Used to have an '89 C22 #9483, "Downsized"
San Antonio, Texas
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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 05/29/2021 :  11:46:36  Show Profile  Visit Leon Sisson's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Since it's fin keel, you can disregard what I said about going to the trouble to get an aluminum piece.  I was thinking swing keel.
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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 05/29/2021 :  11:57:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found a treasure trove of used parts at massmarineparts.com/massmarineparts@gmail.com They are located in Quincy MA and part out boats and have literally trailers of parts including sails, stoves, rigging, etc, etc. If you contact Jon and have a pic of what you are looking for I will bet he has it. Back in winter I was looking for replacement aluminum window frames for my boat. He had 8 or 9 sets. In the teak trailer he had companionway steps of all types, each labeled as to type of boat they came out of. A real find.
Peter Bigelow
C-25 TR/FK #2092 Limerick
Rowayton, Ct
Port Captain: Rowayton/Norwalk/Darien CT
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captnamo
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Response Posted - 06/02/2021 :  05:14:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the input everyone! I have messages out to Catalina Yachts and Mass Marine Parts.
--Steve N.

'80 C25 "Serenity" #1746 FK Muskegon, MI

Never approach the dock faster than you want to hit it.
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Lee Panza
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Response Posted - 06/05/2021 :  10:09:15  Show Profile  Visit Lee Panza's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Steve: If you're not successful at locating an exact replacement (I'd be astounded if you do, but you never know), you can fabricate one yourself a lot cheaper than getting a machine shop to make it. All you'd need is a hacksaw, a drill and a set of bits, and some means of holding the material (a small vise that clamps onto an old tabletop could work). Rather than stainless steel you could use 6061-T6 structural aluminum stock (I forgot to check, but I'm pretty sure mine are just structural aluminum, and I'm quite sure it would be sufficient). You can buy a one-foot piece of inch-and-a-quarter by quarter inch angle stock here:

https://www.onlinemetals.com/en/buy/aluminum/1-25-x-1-25-x-0-25-aluminum-angle-6061-t6-extruded-structural/pid/976

Stainless steel screws can be found in any hardware store. No problem with dissimilar metals at that location. One-inch long screws should be fine, but you'd have to experiment on the diameter (buy a few cheap steel screws in various sizes to experiment with).

The most challenging part of the project would be measuring accurately to align with the existing screw holes, but in something like this the tolerance is fairly substantial. Drill the holes in the angle stock somewhat oversize, and then if the screws still wind up being a little off you'll be able to get them all started and then just drive each one a little at a time sequentially.

There's an indescribably great sense of accomplishment that derives from Do-It-Yourself projects, even as small as this.
The trouble with a destination - any destination, really - is that it interrupts The Journey.

Lee Panza
SR/SK #2134
San Francisco Bay
(Brisbane, CA)
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canadiansailorkid
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Response Posted - 06/20/2021 :  08:44:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was trying to find the right hardware for mine as well because the bolts connecting the teak ladder and angle bracket seem to have gone AWOL. I was going to upsize to 1/4"x1.5" hex bolts. But of course I had fine threaded bolts and course threaded nuts so that was a show stopper.
1978 Catalina C25 Standard Rig Swing Keel
Edited by - canadiansailorkid on 06/20/2021 09:25:58
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