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Ed Welch
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Initially Posted - 04/08/2002 :  20:27:01  Show Profile
Hi everyone, A newbie here about to purchase my first sailboat. After doing a ton of research the past few months I have decided it should be either the C25 or the C250. Right now I am leaning toward the C25.

The loaded question I have for you on the C250 forum is, are there any big advantages to the C250 over the C25 other than just a newer boat. (Throwing aside the fact that there have been technical improvements over the years also.)

Any information or advice will be deeply appreciated.
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/08/2002 :  20:35:18  Show Profile
Hey Ed,

Are you stirring up the hornet's nest on both forums?

Don Lucier, Northstar
C25 SR/FK
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Ed Welch
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Response Posted - 04/08/2002 :  21:11:44  Show Profile
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Ray Seitz
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Response Posted - 04/08/2002 :  21:19:52  Show Profile
ED:
Both are great. I have a 250 mostly because of some of the newer features ie. walk through transom, stern seats, water ballast for lighter towing and a few other things. However I really wanted a C25 wing keel but it was too difficult for me to find one in my area and I got impatient.

Ray Seitz C 250WB #628
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acierno
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Response Posted - 04/08/2002 :  22:24:11  Show Profile
ed, i have owned both the 25 (fin) and the 250 (wing keel). up until this weekend, i hated the 250 (see thread about adding ballast) in terms of sailing in moderate to heavy wind and excessive heel and weather helm. however, these appear to be correctable problems (again, see thread). that being said, the 250 has brought the beam aft so the cockpit has much more room, the traveler is now more readily useable (again, a heavy wind advantage, see recent SAIL magazine), all the lines are run to the cockpit, those aft seats and the walk through transom, not to mention the motor mount, are great, and the belowdecks has done away with dividers, giving the cabin a much larger feel. the stove is lpg, as opposed to alcohol, and the rear berth is much more useable. the cabin top is wider and easier to walk on (and gives more room down below), loosing a traditional look, but becoming more functional. now these are superficial notations of a recent 250 owner, but the boat is a heck of alot more comfortable both topside and below. i would still prefer my old 250 in big winds, but then again, i am still learning my new boat.

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andy
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Response Posted - 04/13/2002 :  15:23:13  Show Profile  Visit andy's Homepage
Ed.. We,ve sailed our C250 WB for two seasons and are extremely happy with it. It's relatively fast (upwind) handles beautifully (3rd gen.rudder) and has plenty of room for the wife and I. We have slept 4 adults on a few overnighters. I'm confident with it in heavy air. We've been caught in 30kt+ gust fronts on high mountain lakes... thrilling but safe... you just have to know your, and the boat's limitations. Lazy jacks are great for dumping the main when it gets really ugly.
C25's are great boats too and you can buy a nicely outfitted one cheaper than a equally equipped C250. The C250WB (water ballast) outshines them all if you plan on trailering the boat. I pull ours up mountain grades in Idaho with a 1/2 ton pickup... the trailer Catalina supplies with the boat is superb. The boat rigs easily (singlehanded) and launches and recovers like a 20' power boat. If you plan on keeping the boat in a slip, I'd probably opt for a fixed keel boat..C250WK, C25 (non swing keel), C27 or C270. The fixed keel boats have more headroom in the cabin and you can fly more canvass (read faster), but are harder to launch, rig,and you'll need a bigger vehicle to tow them safely.

Andy Anderson
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Mill Harbor YC
McCall, Idaho
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