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zeil
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Initially Posted - 06/12/2019 :  20:55:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

As most of you know we sold our beloved C250WB in February 2018 and bought a 30 footer Bayliner on a triple axle trailer. We sold it not long after that. After going boat-less through the winter, we kept on looking on websites mostly at sailboats.

You know the feeling when the weather gets milder, spring is in the air and life pulls you from inside to the outdoors. All of a sudden you get an impulse and strong desire to be around boats again.

So... consciously or unconsciously, boat websites get frequented more often with a nagging desire to find something worth dreaming about.

Boats of all kinds get evaluated and scrutinized closer to find something that will raise blood pressure and sends you into dreamland

Then, among all “boats for sale” sites we ended up on one offering 5 different 25ft trailerable Catalina's, 4 in the USA and one in Canada but... all very far from home.

The 5 boats look attractive but the one in Canada stands out a little. “Oh no... you don't”, you say to yourself, “we've already had one like that”. It's too far from home you reason but... the thought hangs around and you go back to look at it again and again. You even, now that the fire has been stoked, place “a boat wanted” ad on the forum while in the meantime you dare phone the broker who responds almost immediately with what sounds like a honey sweet deal

In the meantime you talk cautiously and tactfully about seeing family in the area where the boat is for sale and propose to your wife to visit them. Ah... the reaction of let's do it, is not helping either to stem the overwhelming feeling of getting another boat in combination with a trip and sail-plan in Ontario.

All during the winter you've looked at dozens of trailerable boats of all descriptions but all seem to fall short for one reason or another to the Catalina's water ballasted or even the wing-keeled C250.

And so... to make a long story short, we ended up making an offer on the one in Ontario, flew out for an inspection and clinched the deal. Now how crazy is that!

Along with the decision of buying the boat came the consideration that its location is precisely 4406km (2738 miles) from where we live in British Columbia

Between buying the boat in mid May and leaving by truck for Ontario at the beginning of June we have been kept busy preparing additions, modifications and changes for the boat at home using measurements taken while we visited the boat and as provided by this forum. Thank you guys.

To take all our boat-stuff including bedding, tools, teak wood-work, pots and pans and whatever else we deemed necessary we built a big wooden box to fit the bed of the truck and filled it completely.

The date that we planned to leave was set for June 8th, first to visit our kids in Smithers and attend the graduation of our twin grandsons and from there head east via Prince George on the Yellow Head route to Ontario while visiting friends along the way. Arrival at the boat in Pointe au Baril, Ontario will be, if all goes to plan, sometime in the beginning of July.

Once we arrive at the boat we anticipate to need a minimum of a few days to outfit, install, add and make the interior of the boat livable including outside work such as adding risers below the bow's horizontal mast cradle in order to raise the pop-top while motoring the Trent Severn waterway.

The Payne Marina in Pointe au Baril, where the boat will be commissioned, has granted us permission to outfit the boat on site. After that is completed and we are ready to roll, arrangements have been made nearby to have the trailer's wheel-bearings, brakes, lights, tow-surge-hitch and hydraulic lines checked, serviced and/or replaced.

To keep you updated we intend to post regular reports of our trip east, our sailing experience in Ontario and our road trip back to Vancouver, BC before the snow flies... do stay tuned, there will be more...


Loaded with boat stuff


Our motley crew is all excited


Henk & Johanna
Mariah '96 C250WB #191

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Response Posted - 06/20/2019 :  13:21:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Henk,

I always enjoy reading your reports/stories. Thank you.



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zeil
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Response Posted - 07/13/2019 :  15:15:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Eventful days

The enclosed photo shows something you don't want see happen to your boat... ever!!
I'll start the tale where we left off with our previous submission

We departed home June 8th and traveled with our truck north to Smithers BC an 1146 km trip. Before leaving though we made all kinds of modifications for the boat and took all our pots and pans along in a sealed shut wooden case to be unloaded once we arrived at the boat several weeks later after crossing the country, only 4400km (2734 miles) to the east

After we attended our twin grand sons graduation we headed east with several visits along the way. The trip, including visiting people along the way, took us a week.

We arrived at Payne's Marina on June 30th after and uneventful but great trip. A little road weary mind you. It is after all a long way.

At Payne's Marina in Pointe au Baril, Mark the owner allowed us to stay and assemble the boat in his large modern boat storage area and sleep on the boat to save time driving to accommodations. We did this and worked for a full 5 days from morning to night to get the boat in shape starting with a thorough cleaning of mildew. Once completed we added our homemade modifications including a table, shelf in the galley. shelf in the settee area, a hatch step seat and a few other things.

Finally we were satisfied and moved from Payne's Marina where we, in the meantime, sort of became part of the crew and loved it. Mark the owner runs an efficient and customer oriented lakeside business and will do anything to make people comfortable. More about him later

At the next stop a couple of miles up the road we had the brakes and lights on the trailer checked and repaired.

Once all was in order and road-worthy we drove 300 some odd km to Johanna's family who live in Port Hope, Ontario. We were glad we could stay there. Almost a full week was taken up by getting the boat provisioned, ready and leaving behind what would not be required on the boat since we would be motoring only during our Trent/Severn waterway cruise.

Finally all was ready and we trailered to Rice lake about 15 km from Johanna's brother's place.

Launching was uneventful.

Finally we were in the water. Starting the new-to-us motor we headed in the direction of the marina we had booked for the night.

Not even 10 minutes out, the 8hp Yamaha outboard quit and the wind piped up driving us broadside in the right direction. Restarting the engine failed over and over again. Finally, out of desperation, we phoned for help and a tow at $150.00 per hour. (Should have bought CTow but is was now too late)

Arriving at the Marina we were told that their specialty was servicing Mercury engines but... “we'll have a look at it”, they suggested. The mechanic came out and immediately noticed that the cooling exhaust was coming out of engine ports in the wrong locations.
So, while the mechanic checked on line, I phoned Payne's Marina where the boat, before we left had received a new water pump, oil change and was checked over. Yes, they said all was running well.

Tom, the service shop manager at Payne's Marina phoned back and offered to send out a mechanic to fix the problem but at the lake 300 km down the road no Yamaha's could be serviced and the distance to send someone was too great. Now what...

Before I could turn around the service people at Harris Boatworks on Rice Lake, Ont came out and said that they would take care of the problem. Mark from Payne's Marina had phoned and told Harris Boatworks that he would foot the bill whatever the cost.

Wow... this absolutely blew us away

The boat was picked up with the boat-hauler and brought to the shop. The problem was fixed in the shortest of times.

So back to the water... then things started to happen. For no apparent reason the boat must have shifted or the hauler's bunks spread just enough to have the boat slip sideways down until the motor hit the ground and broke off the skeg.

Quickly shoring the existing pads and under-slinging the boat it was brought down the ramp where the buoyancy of the water raised the boat onto an even keel again.

But the damage on the hull was done. Several deep gouges were made in the fibreglass on the starboard mid section of the hull and the skeg of the motor was broken off.

It was agreed that the next morning the boat would be hauled-out again and a fibreglass expert brought in to assess and fix the damage.

Next morning bright and early the boat was hauled out again, this time with additional pads, braces sling and tackle and work started with no guarantee or length of time that it would take.

Later the same day a welder doing some major repair on a houseboat in the same marina was asked if he could weld aluminum and if he would have the proper equipment to weld the skeg part back on. A delicate and worrisome job.

Both jobs were completed and we were launched back in the water just before closing time the same day.

No, they said, the cost to repair is ours... wow... what service, we are impressed with both companies who will look after their clientele no matter what... thank you guys

Henk & Johanna
Mariah '96 C250WB #191

Edited by - zeil on 10/20/2019 14:36:45
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glivs
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Response Posted - 07/15/2019 :  07:56:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Incredible story Henk and what a start on your latest journey. Glad things are coming back together and what fortune to work with such reputable marinas. Your pic was painful....did you in hindsight come to learn what caused the boat to shift like that?

Anyway, glad you are on your way again/soon. Fair winds and best to you and Johanna.

Gerry & Leslie; Malletts Bay, VT
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islander
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Response Posted - 07/15/2019 :  08:52:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
With the engine in the down position it's lucky that it didn't also do damage to the transom/motor well. How's the prop? Before leaving I would run the motor and check to see if the prop shaft isn't bent. That's if the prop shows damage.

Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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zeil
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Response Posted - 07/15/2019 :  17:33:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

You bet our hearts stopped when the boat slipped in between the pads and hung precariously at a crazy angle. How could this have happened!!

First of all the marina people at Harris Boatworks only haul motorboats and never or very seldom have to work with round hulls. The entire lift with all adjustments and gadgets will accommodate motorboat hulls efficiently and is operated by a staff who do this work daily.

When we needed a lift, since our outboard is bolted to the transom, they reluctantly agreed to take the boat out of the water. Pads were adjusted and secured. Carefully the boat was lifted and transported to the repair shop where the work on the motor was completed.

A short time after the lift, now in reverse, was to bring the boat back to the ramp. The theory is that on the way back the open end of the lift just spread apart since they were not strapped from side to side and spread allowing the pads to slip and create, while widening apart, less grip to the stern pads allowing the starboard side to slip down and only stop when the outboard hit the ground, broke the skeg, and stopped the hull from sliding further down. Panic big time!!

Right away a strap, which should have tied the open end of the lift together, was installed but only just tightened to prevent the hull from being pinched. The center starboard pads held but had caused deep gouges in the mid section of the hull above the waterline.

Slowly with utmost care the lift continued its way to the ramp where the boat, due to the water level, lifted and straightened out.

Wow... now what... Fortunately all scrapes and gouges were above the waterline. The motor was immediately tested and seemed, other than a broken skeg unharmed. The big worry though which could not be assessed until later was the question of the ballast tank seal inside the boat.

Now back in the water for a few days and after carefully checking and inspecting where possible, we are assured that the ballast tank seal has not been harmed and the bilge stays dry.

This has been a nightmare but in the end all turned out well. The skeg is welded back on and the gouges and scrapes completely restored by an fiberglass expert.

Stay tuned as we continue with our adventure....

Henk & Johanna
Mariah '96 C250WB #191
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zeil
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Response Posted - 08/25/2019 :  05:31:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

She's back in the water all fixed and shiny again... more to come



Henk & Johanna
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Response Posted - 08/25/2019 :  11:22:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow Henk! What a potential disaster, glad you were working with a great boat yard, he’s a rare breed. I’ve seen the “repairman’s shrug” way too often.
I noticed that the swing blade saved the rudder. Did they check the pintles and gudgeons for stress? They will undergo a good deal of wear over the normal course of use, and it’s usually a major problem if they fail unexpectedly.

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Carl in LA
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Response Posted - 08/25/2019 :  17:53:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In Ontario I presume...?

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She's back in the water all fixed and shiny again... more to come



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Response Posted - 08/25/2019 :  19:19:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow Henk. What a nightmare! Hadn't read your story until now. Hope all the bad is behind you and you are enjoying the rest of your time on your new 250. All our best to Johanna also.

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