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Erik Cornelison
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Initially Posted - 03/13/2018 :  08:07:40  Show Profile
Are these numbers correct?

Copied & Pasted from the C25 PDF file.

I'm going to have new standing rigging made. They will have my originals to copy from too, but I want to give them some written data.

Are these numbers correct for wire size and type?

RIGGING SPECIFICATION SCHEDULE C-25
STANDARD
NOTE - MAST EXTRUSION = 28' - 0" ------- BOOM EXTRUSION = 10' - 4"

Description S.S. Wire Size L = Length No. Reqd

Main Halyard 1/8" 7x19 27' 8" 1
Jib Halyard 1/8" 7x19 29' 2" 1
Forestay 3/16" 1x19 29' -10" 1
Single Backstay 3/16" 1x19 32' 3" 1
Split Backstay 3/16" 1x19 26' 4" 1
Backstay Bridle 3/16" 1x19 5' 8 1/2" 2
Forward Lowers 5/32" 1x19 14' 5" 2
Aft Lowers 5/32" 1x19 14' 7 1/4" 2
Upper Shrouds 3/16" 1x19 28' 5 3/4" 2
Erik Cornelison
6th Generation Professional Sailor, First Gen Submarine Sailor.
1986 Standard Rig SW. #5234

Kim Luckner
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Response Posted - 03/13/2018 :  10:06:45  Show Profile
I think you've discovered a very old typo.

My guess is all should be 7x19 stranded stainless cable.
Seeadler
'79 C25 SR/FK #1432
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/13/2018 :  10:37:45  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Kim Luckner

I think you've discovered a very old typo.

My guess is all should be 7x19 stranded stainless cable.
I don't think so. 7x19 is more flexible, and commonly used for running rigging. 1x19 is stiffer, and generally used for standing rigging. 7x19 is seven little cables wound together, each one made up of 19 wires that are relatively fine. 1x19 is just 19 heavier wires wound into one cable.
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
Edited by - Stinkpotter on 03/13/2018 10:43:32
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/13/2018 :  10:51:32  Show Profile
BTW Erik... You see the specs for the wire-to-rope halyards. You may have seen discussions here about replacing them with all-rope (generally 5/16"), which many of us have done. That requires replacing the mast-head sheaves (from CD), the originals of which are generally toast by now anyway. Just thought I'd mention it since you're looking at the original specs.
Dave Bristle
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PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
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islander
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Response Posted - 03/13/2018 :  12:50:19  Show Profile
1x19 according to the chart.
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


Edited by - islander on 03/13/2018 12:52:03
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Sailynn
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Response Posted - 03/13/2018 :  18:32:56  Show Profile
If you have wire sheaves, and a existing wire to rope halyard, the wire needs to be flexible enough to bend around the wire sheave. If you have all rope sheaves and rope halyards, which is what most newer boats have from manufacturer, go with all rope and don't worry about the wire. If you go wire to rope, make sure you have wire load sheaves and wire according to mfg. specs. It was not a typo, there is a reason why wire was different for halyards as previous poster said.
Lynn Buchanan
1988 C25 SR/WK #5777
Sailynn
Nevada City, CA
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Erik Cornelison
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Response Posted - 03/14/2018 :  08:02:22  Show Profile
What about forward, aft and lower shrouds? Is my chart correct? That’s what I’m replacing first.
Erik
Erik Cornelison
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Stinkpotter
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 03/14/2018 :  09:03:55  Show Profile
Have you looked into the sets from Catalina Direct? Mine fit like a glove, and according to the rigger who installed them, were very well made. An important feature is the bronze open-body turnbuckles.
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
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islander
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Response Posted - 03/14/2018 :  11:34:07  Show Profile
I too recommend the set from CD. It was easy and fit perfectly. You do have to let them know the length of your backstay. Very competitive price. They really know these boats. That said I don't know why your doing the riggers job. If I hired a rigger I would lower the mast then hand him all of the old rigging and let him do his job.Its what your paying him for and if he makes a mistake then it's on him to correct it.
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


Edited by - islander on 03/14/2018 11:48:25
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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 03/18/2018 :  05:19:42  Show Profile
At @$650 I doubt a rigger could beat CD's price for a full set of shrouds, but of you choose to go that way he should do all measuring and installation and guarantee his work.
Peter Bigelow
C-25 TR/FK #2092 Limerick
Rowayton, Ct
Port Captain: Rowayton/Norwalk/Darien CT
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jduck00
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Response Posted - 03/22/2018 :  16:39:29  Show Profile
I can recommend the fellows over at Catalina Direct. I replaced my standing rigging a bit at a time. Perfect fit every time. Your local guy might be great, but don't forget the fellows over at CD. They know our boats well.
Jeremy Duck
The Lucky Duck
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