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ted
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Initially Posted - 03/26/2019 :  15:42:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm looking at a 1989 Catalina 25. Does anyone know what the headroom is in this boat with the pop top down?
Ted Ison

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Response Posted - 03/26/2019 :  16:42:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have an '85 FK. I can stand, at the base of the companionway ladder at my full stately height of 5-6" and my head does not touch. This area, under the raised sliding hatch area seems to be the area of greatest clearance.

If I step down into the slight depression in front of the galley sink and stove, I have to crick my neck to clear the roof. My wife, at 5'4" can stand upright there.

Going forward of the hatch, there is less overhead clearance and I can't stand upright forward of the bulkhead in the head. The transom there is definitely treacherous.

So, absent any hard data, which someone should chime in with, I'd say 5'4" is a good working number for minimum head room.
Tim Keating
1985 C-25 TR/FK #4940
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Lake Don Pedro, CA
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Stinkpotter
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 03/26/2019 :  19:26:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 1989-91 models are different from all previous years in that the cabin sole was lowered and flattened due to the discontinuation of the swing keel. I don’t know the increase in headroom, but would guess 3-4”. At 5’8”, I could just barely stand straight in the middle of the cabin of my 1985 fin, which I believe was built using the interior mold that was also used for the swing. (I might have been bending my neck a little, but considered it standing headroom for myself.)
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 03/27/2019 :  04:31:28  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have an '89 but never measured the height in the main cabin. I am 5'10" and I seem to be okay standing in the main cabin. Only thing I can say for certainty is knocking my head on the overhead, if I forget to duck, when going forward from the main cabin to the Head/VBerth areas.
Larry
'89 Robin's Nest#5820, Potomac River/Quantico, Va
http://catalina25.homestead.com/olarryr.html
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dalelargent
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Response Posted - 03/28/2019 :  14:38:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I own an ‘89 and the only place I can stand fully upright is just below the companionway ladder. I am 5’11” Even there I can feel my hair static clinging to the ceiling.

I will also add that I never have troubles in general moving about the boat as I can nearly stand most places. And am often sitting when below anyway. When moving about I simply slouch a bit more than usual. ;)

I do look forward to the next, bigger boat where I can stand everywhere. But I would never reject the c25 due to headroom concerns.
1989 c25 WK/TR #5838
1998 Catalina 36 mkii
1983 Vagabond 14
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islander
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Response Posted - 03/28/2019 :  16:00:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm 6'3"....I walk around like a caveman.
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 03/29/2019 :  05:29:06  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Caveman - Great answer !!

Nothing wrong with a cavemen owning a sailboat !
Larry
'89 Robin's Nest#5820, Potomac River/Quantico, Va
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/29/2019 :  07:44:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So Ted... Whaddaya think? I will repeat my comments from the past that the '89-91 C-25 is possibly the best value in a transportable (without wide-load permits and a Freightliner) cruising sailboat ever made by anyone. It just turned out to be a little too costly and heavy for an evolving market that eventually eliminated just about everything in that category--even the successor C-250 that was created to be lighter and more maintenance-free.

For me, bigger boats are less amenable to single-handing or easy handling with non-sailor guests, and inboard auxiliaries are more complicated and expensive to maintain or replace. If I were in the market, having already owned a 1985 C-25 fin, I would be looking for an '89+ and expecting to pay somewhat of a premium for that vintage. Catalina is still in business (unlike most of its competitors of that era), Catalina Direct is a great third-party supplier of parts and upgrades, and this forum is among the best sailing communities on the web--ready and able to advise anyone on just about anything (even when we don't know what we're talking about).
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
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RichardG
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Response Posted - 03/29/2019 :  11:33:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm 6"1". One of the best attributes of the C25 is, when at a slip, mooring or anchor, headroom is easily 6'6" with the poptop up.


RichardG 81 FK/SR #2657
Terminal Island, CA
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dalelargent
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Response Posted - 03/29/2019 :  12:18:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RichardG

I'm 6"1". One of the best attributes of the C25 is, when at a slip, mooring or anchor, headroom is easily 6'6" with the poptop up.

Totally agree. I love the pop-top! I raise it often.
1989 c25 WK/TR #5838
1998 Catalina 36 mkii
1983 Vagabond 14
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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 04/01/2019 :  03:17:40  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was down on my boat last week and will be again, today. Correction to my posting regarding height inside the cabin. While I did not measure the height within the cabin, I am 5'10'' and so with shoes...add another ~1" or so and I have to slightly bend to stand straight p but I guess I never noticed it before. So...perhaps the cabin height is about 5' 9'' or a smidgeon above that.
Larry
'89 Robin's Nest#5820, Potomac River/Quantico, Va
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ted
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Response Posted - 04/11/2019 :  15:01:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 1989 wing keel boat I'm hoping to buy has not come back on the market yet, so I wait.
Ted Ison
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 04/13/2019 :  08:00:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is still HEWEBB’s 1988 Wing Keel boat in Texas.. It’s an inboard engine tho, but it’s a great choice for many sailors.
Of course that’s a very long way from just about anywhere in Canada, but! It comes with a trailer.
Bruce Ross
Passage ~ SR-FK ~ C25 #5032

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glivs
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Response Posted - 04/14/2019 :  15:55:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know you're search may be temporarily on hold but finally got to the boat this weekend and thought I'd answer your initial question. My measurements were quick but should be within 1/4" or less.
Heights taken in the cabin.
- Entrance to head w/ original accordion door: shy of 60"
- 2-3" aft of compression post: 62 3/4"
- mid-cabin (pop-top down): 65 3/4"
- base of cockpit ladder; sliding hatch closed: 70"

Good luck in your search.

Edit...I apparently shut off my signature in initial posting...our boat is an '89.
Gerry & Leslie; Malletts Bay, VT
"Great Escape" 1989 C-25 SR/WK #5972
Edited by - glivs on 04/14/2019 18:21:58
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Erik Cornelison
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Response Posted - 04/14/2019 :  16:16:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We sail often with the pop top up. Love it.
Erik Cornelison
6th Generation Professional Sailor, First Gen Submarine Sailor.
1986 Standard Rig SW. #5234
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Stinkpotter
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 04/14/2019 :  17:59:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by glivs

...My measurements were quick but should be within 1/4" or less.
Heights taken in the cabin...
What vintage? It matters--up to 1989 the cabin sole was uneven and made to accommodate the swing keel (no matter which keel the boat actually had). 1989-91 (the end) was a new, lower, flat floor--I don't know the measurement differences, but it's different--I was in a couple, and wished mine was like that.
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
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ted
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Response Posted - 04/27/2019 :  15:36:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On Monday I'm looking at a 1989 c25 with a wing keel. Pictures look great. He is asking $10100 CAN. It has a trailer. Is their a price range one can expect to pay for this boat.
Ted Ison
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 04/28/2019 :  10:32:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This week that’s about $7500 US so for a wing keel boat from ‘89, that’s pretty good provided that:
It comes with plenty of amenities including new sails, spinnaker and pole, new standing and running rigging, a long shaft outboard, nice cushions in and out, winter cover, gas grill, and
The ship’s inspection report comes back clean: no leaks, no rot, good through hulls, clean head, working sinks, good portlights, solid decks, nice teak, solid keel bolts, good hatches, good electrical, etc.
Bruce Ross
Passage ~ SR-FK ~ C25 #5032

Port Captain — Milford, CT
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 04/28/2019 :  11:41:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, in many US markets a good '89 wing with a good trailer should do quite a bit better. The motor and sails are the primary question-marks in terms of expense. '89-'91 C-25s are the picks of the litter.
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
Edited by - Stinkpotter on 04/28/2019 11:45:48
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Sailynn
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Response Posted - 04/28/2019 :  14:17:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I owned a 1989 C25 wing keel and the headroom is advertised as 5'9" top down and 6'6" poptop up. You can always call the factory engineering department or send them a email. That price would be good if with motor and trailer, and boat operable and in sound condition IMHO.
Lynn Buchanan
1988 C25 SR/WK #5777
Sailynn
Nevada City, CA
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ted
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Response Posted - 05/04/2019 :  17:06:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The C25 I'm getting has a 9.9 Suzuki with oil injection. Has anyone had experience with such a motor.
Ted Ison
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 05/04/2019 :  22:06:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nothing wrong with a 2 stroke especially if it's in good shape and a long shaft. Usually much lighter in weight than a four stroke engine, it would offer plenty of power.
Bruce Ross
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