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Dave5041
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Initially Posted - 02/06/2018 : 22:07:55

I think I'm going to finally have to rebed the genoa tracks for scattered..small leaks that can't be traced to anything else. It will, of course require back-filling with epoxy and counter sinking to provide a plug taper to the bedding. The nuts are foamed in place, so alignment is critical. I'm thinking waxed straws inserted down into the nut to seal them and maintain the hole"s alignment instead of trying to redrill accurately. My original thought was to fill most of the holes, use the remaining holes to reattach the track and use it as a drill guide and then go back for the remaining holes.. I would still have to plug the nuts and might scuff the inside of the holes in the track and possible subsequent corrosion. Any comments or suggestions for this pia?

Dave B. aboard Pearl
1982 TR/SK/Trad. #3399
Lake Erie/Florida Panhandle

sethp001
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Response Posted - 02/06/2018 : 23:02:18

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Originally posted by Dave5041

I think I'm going to finally have to rebed the genoa tracks for scattered..small leaks that can't be traced to anything else. It will, of course require back-filling with epoxy and counter sinking to provide a plug taper to the bedding. The nuts are foamed in place, so alignment is critical. I'm thinking waxed straws inserted down into the nut to seal them and maintain the hole"s alignment instead of trying to redrill accurately. My original thought was to fill most of the holes, use the remaining holes to reattach the track and use it as a drill guide and then go back for the remaining holes.. I would still have to plug the nuts and might scuff the inside of the holes in the track and possible subsequent corrosion. Any comments or suggestions for this pia?

While I would back-fill stanchion holes with epoxy and re-drill to protect the deck's core, I think you are just as well to skip it with the genoa track. Counter-sinking would still be a good idea to help your sealant.

Seth
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islander
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Response Posted - 02/07/2018 : 08:09:39

I have the same leak on the starboard side. I've been putting it off due to the fact that there are a lot of bolts and like yours the nuts are buried in glass or hull deck joint goo. I would probably just countersink the holes and reseal so I don't disturb the nuts. Trying to dig all those nuts out might just open a new can of worms.

Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/07/2018 : 21:23:35

Inserting waxed, plastic straws from the top into the nuts was my plan so I wouldn't need to do anything with them was my plan, but counter sinking and just painting with epoxy might be the best compromise.

Dave B. aboard Pearl
1982 TR/SK/Trad. #3399
Lake Erie/Florida Panhandle

Lee Panza
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Response Posted - 02/07/2018 : 22:32:57

Dave; I can't let this go by without speaking out a warning (based on experience). You may regret the idea of plastic straws when the epoxy gets past them and fills the threads in the nuts. If the straws are a snug fit, and you slather them well with grease that mounds up around them as they slide into the nuts, you might be OK. But you won't be able to see what's going on down there to assure that you're getting a seal on every one. Also, it will be difficult to get them precisely aligned with the axis of each nut (unless they're a very snug fit). Consider, instead, buying a pile of cheap electro-galv'd. machine bolts that are long enough to extend well above the deck. Coat them lightly with grease and screw them into the nuts. Pour in the epoxy around them and unscrew them as soon as it sets. There may be a little grease left in the threads that form in the epoxy, but the countersink for the bedding will still seal.

The trouble with a destination - any destination, really - is that it interrupts The Journey.

Lee Panza
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/08/2018 : 14:32:30

That is a better idea, but I would probably drill the threads out of the epoxy once it cures.

Dave B. aboard Pearl
1982 TR/SK/Trad. #3399
Lake Erie/Florida Panhandle

GaryB
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Response Posted - 02/08/2018 : 17:40:05

I think I'd either just have a cover made that reached across the boat and hung over the sides or I'd sell the boat and buy one that didn't leak rather than mess with the genoa track. :)

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 02/09/2018 : 09:15:00

On our '81 some of the port side nuts were inaccessible on the tracks alongside the galley.

Derek Crawford
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Previous owner of "This Side UP"
1981 C-25 TR/FK #2262 Used to have an '89 C22 #9483, "Downsized"
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