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bigbeartr57
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Initially Posted - 08/06/2017 :  11:26:50  Show Profile
Would it be a good idea to support a FK Catalina 25 on pads alone? I currently have the boat on a trailer that has 6 regular square pads and one small V pad under the bow, and am in the middle of a bottom job. Most of the sanding is complete and I'm getting ready to paint but have a couple problems with what I believe to be a simple solution, but I'm not sure. #1: I want to be able to get at the areas under the pads. I plan on lowering the pads one at a time, but the boat sits pretty low on the trailer and there isn't enough room to lower them enough. #2 I really want to get at the bottom of the keel.

My plan: I want to slowly lift the boat with the pads (It would be supported on the 6 pads alone while I raise it) to put blocks under the keel so that I can work on about half of it, move the blocks, and then finish the job.

My concern: Is this a safe thing to do? Whats the risk of putting that much weight on the pads and letting the keel dangle freely? I've gotten it lifted so that the bow came about half an inch off its pad, but the keel is still on the trailer-is that just normal flexing? I kind of assume that the keel can hag since that's how it sits in slings, but I'm not sure the pads can handle the weight. This is only going to be temporary though, just to give the opportunity to block it higher.

Sorry this is so wordy.
"Old Yeller"
1978 Catalina 25 FK
Corpus Christi, TX

Dave5041
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Response Posted - 08/06/2017 :  17:31:59  Show Profile
Not directly involved in this, but keels aren't supported when these boats are lifted in slings.

Dave B. aboard Pearl
1982 TR/SK/Trad. #3399
Lake Erie/Florida Panhandle
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 08/06/2017 :  19:40:01  Show Profile
Or when they are in the water although the water does reduce their weight slightly.

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GaryB
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'89 SR/WK #5862
Kemah,TX
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 08/07/2017 :  03:49:06  Show Profile
My trailer was an EZ Loader. The boat rested on rollers instead of pads. It had an adjustable steel support bar that carried the weight of the fin keel. Every Spring during the 23 years that I owned it, I lowered the support bar so that all the weight of the boat was resting on the rollers and the keel was unsupported, and I left it that way for 2-3 days until I applied 1-2 coats of paint and let them dry. Then I raised the support bar and never experienced any damage.
Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
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WesAllen
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Response Posted - 08/07/2017 :  14:42:42  Show Profile
I agree with Steve I do the same thing with my swinger for as long as a week. No problems.
Wesley Allen
"Breaking Wind"
1982 C-25 SR/TR/SK #2773
Hemlock, MI
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Akenumber
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Response Posted - 08/07/2017 :  18:41:55  Show Profile
I also did as you were thinking. I used a small jack under the keel and lifted the pads at the same rate. I was also nervous about the amount of lift with the keel still toutching. I figured out it was the trailer flexing and not the boat. I did what I needed to do to prep and paint the keel bottom and set it back down as soon as possible. Maybe a day or so and then dropped a couple pads at a time to finish painting. Seemed scarry, but I think it was totally fine.
Ken
San Diego
84 C25 SR/FK 4116
The KRAKEN
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bigbeartr57
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Response Posted - 08/07/2017 :  22:37:42  Show Profile
I went for it and it worked pretty well. I started off just going around and turning each pad at a half thread at a time, but by the end was turning about 2 threads at a time. Took some time and some elbow grease in the 95 degree weather, but it worked. I'd probably do it again if I needed to and recommend it as an option to others. It felt pretty safe and now I'll be able to sand and paint every sq in of the bottom one way or another. Now I just need to figure out the most efficient way to paint under the pads without losing too much support.
"Old Yeller"
1978 Catalina 25 FK
Corpus Christi, TX
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 08/09/2017 :  13:59:23  Show Profile
How many pads on each side? If more than two and the keel is supported, I think you're safe to lower one at a time.
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
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Akenumber
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Response Posted - 08/09/2017 :  18:35:07  Show Profile
I have 3 per side and kinda did a balancing act with a couple guy lines anchored to questionable substrate. Worked out though
Ken
San Diego
84 C25 SR/FK 4116
The KRAKEN
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bigbeartr57
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Response Posted - 01/24/2018 :  16:31:23  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Stinkpotter

How many pads on each side? If more than two and the keel is supported, I think you're safe to lower one at a time.


Three on each side and one V pad on the bow. Definitely worked if anyone else is interested.
"Old Yeller"
1978 Catalina 25 FK
Corpus Christi, TX
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