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DSherwood
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Initially Posted - 09/09/2016 :  06:40:00  Show Profile
This forum is great. I appreciate all the help.

I believe we're going to go with a Honda 8 HP, high thrust, long shaft. Specs say it weighs in at 107 lbs, but the dealer says it is a little more. (I don't yet know if the dealer's weight includes the fuel tank.)

What are the options for a new motor mount. Catalina Direct has a four-spring model, Z2247 for $357.63. It looks ideal, but it is a bit pricey. Are there other options people have had success with?

Also, with a brand-new engine, I'm thinking security may be more of an issue. Are there any good anti-theft measures people can take?

Thanks again, Duane
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dasreboot
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Response Posted - 09/09/2016 :  06:43:52  Show Profile  Visit dasreboot's Homepage
for antitheft , the motor mount screws have a lock on them, the motor is bolted to the plate, and i have a locking cable. this will stop the casual thief.
Todd Lewis
Eowyn 87 TR/WK C25 #5656
ARWEN 84 TR/SK C25 #4031
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 09/09/2016 :  08:35:15  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by DSherwood

I believe we're going to go with a Honda 8 HP, high thrust, long shaft...
I hope you mean "extra long" (possibly listed as for 25" transom height). "Long" is listed for 20" height. You want those 5" on a C-25. I think my 2003 XL with electric starter was 107-108 lbs. The CD (Garhauer) bracket should fit the holes from the factory (Garhauer) bracket, and it has excellent vertical travel.

I locked the clamps together with a padlock--that could have been defeated with a hammer blow that breaks one of the clamp handles. But the location was pretty safe--backed into a guarded club slip. (Stealing a 108 lb. Honda won't be very "casual".)
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
Edited by - Stinkpotter on 09/09/2016 08:45:32
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WesAllen
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Response Posted - 09/09/2016 :  09:09:00  Show Profile
I have the 4 springer and works very well with my 9.9 4 stoke Merc. By all means get the XL length motor no matter what brand.
Wesley Allen
"Breaking Wind"
1982 C-25 SR/TR/SK #2773
Hemlock, MI
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 09/09/2016 :  09:22:40  Show Profile
I had the 25" XL shaft, elec start, 9.8 hp Nissan (Tohatsu/Mercury) and liked it very much. Very dependable and quiet running. Weighs 93 lbs. Ditto must have the 25" XL shaft.
If you do not need electric start, the 8 hp model is available in 25" shaft. I wanted the 8 but at the time could not get it with both elec start and 25" shaft. Same engine, different carb.

Edit: Looks like now the 8 is not available in 25" shaft.
DavidP
1975 C-22 SK #5459 "Shadowfax" Fleet 52
PO of 1984 C-25 SK/TR #4142 "Recess"
Percy Priest Yacht Club, Hamilton Creek Marina, Nashville, TN
Edited by - dmpilc on 09/09/2016 09:40:26
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 09/09/2016 :  09:30:10  Show Profile
107 lbs. is a heavy motor to install and remove. My Nissan 6 hp weighs less than 60 lbs, and I can take it off the transom while underway and stow it on the cabin floor by myself, to race. You'll want two strong people to remove a 107 lb engine for servicing or for trailering. The Honda is a very nice engine in many respects, but it's weight is a big minus, IMO.

Be sure you get a motor mount that will help you raise the motor out of the water at the dock or on your mooring. My friend put his Honda 8 on a standard mount, and it takes two of us to lift it.
Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 09/09/2016 :  09:37:01  Show Profile
Onlineoutboards also offers a 6 hp Tohatsu/Nissan/Mercury, that Steve mentions above, with 25" shaft, high thrust prop, and a factory installed 60 watt 5 amp alternator. Weight is 61 lbs. Worth considering if you are an inland lake boat.
http://onlineoutboards.com/tohatsu-6-hp-outboards.html
DavidP
1975 C-22 SK #5459 "Shadowfax" Fleet 52
PO of 1984 C-25 SK/TR #4142 "Recess"
Percy Priest Yacht Club, Hamilton Creek Marina, Nashville, TN
Edited by - dmpilc on 09/09/2016 09:42:28
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islander
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Response Posted - 09/09/2016 :  16:48:20  Show Profile
Regarding the motor mount from CD, It has 17" of travel. I doubt that you will find a another mount that has that much travel. It would be counter productive to have an extra long shaft on a mount that doesn't drop down enough. Yes it's expensive but it is the right one for the boat.
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


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GaryB
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Response Posted - 09/09/2016 :  16:56:25  Show Profile
Looks like you can save $560 right now on the 9.8 XL shaft with electric start. Apparently the only difference is 2017 VS 2016.

http://onlineoutboards.com/tohatsu-9-8-hp-outboards.html

Edit: Actually they are both 2017's. Not sure why there is a such a big price and weight difference.

Edit 2: One has power trim and tilt vs manual tilt.

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GaryB
Andiamo
'89 SR/WK #5862
Kemah,TX
Edited by - GaryB on 09/09/2016 17:20:37
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