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Sprinter towing / How much does my boat weigh?

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KiteKraemer
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Initially Posted - 07/13/2016 : 09:41:17

Hi gang- I hope summer is treating you well--

I have a catalina 25, swing keel. its a '78. Forget if its lead or iron keel, but never the less-- I wanted to find out because I purchased a sprinter 2500 and am wondering if the Sprinter would be able to tow it. The sprinter has a 5k approved limit. thanks y'all! -KK

Unicorn
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Davy J
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Response Posted - 07/13/2016 : 10:20:18

We all love a good towing thread...........

There are a ton of towing threads on the forum, but why let a fun discussion go to waste.....

Pre-1988 manual says displacement is 4150. Not sure if that includes the outboard. But most likely dry weight, no gear, fuel, water.

The problem will be that most twin axle trailers are going to weigh somewhere between 1100-1400lbs. Add the gear and other stuff and you will certainly be approaching 6000lbs or more.

I'll be popping some corn.........

Davy J

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islander
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Response Posted - 07/13/2016 : 11:00:29

I had no clue what a Sprinter 2500 was, Had to Google that one. Ok, Mercedes van... Proceed.

Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound

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KiteKraemer
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Response Posted - 07/13/2016 : 11:22:37

Thanks guys- I thought it was in the 7000 range with trailer but the sprinter is only rated at 5000. Dang!

Unicorn
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Response Posted - 07/13/2016 : 20:12:28

All C-25 swing keels are 1500 lbs. of cast iron. You're well over the rated towing capacity in any case, which could mean damage to the transmission, or damage to you and whoever happens to be near you when a little surprise happens. Use the Search function above to look for "tow vehicle" in the C-25 forum, and sit back with a bowl of popcorn...

Dave Bristle
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jduck00
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Response Posted - 07/14/2016 : 08:20:53

If you're just towing it once, rent a uhaul. Even their short trucks work great. The load rating is plenty high enough, they have the brakes to stop it if the trailer brakes don't work (know from experience), and dual wheels make for an easy pull. I've hauled mine with both a F150 that just met the load limit and a short uhaul truck. The uhaul was a much easier haul.Just about any truck\van can get it moving. For me its more about control and stopping. Side wall flex in single wheel trucks isn't near as comfortable as having two on the back. My trailer is rated for 6000lbs gross weight. I've never weighed it, but I'm pretty sure its overweight. Just my 2 cents.

Jeremy Duck
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Response Posted - 07/14/2016 : 08:44:37

Mine ran across the scale at just over 6200 lbs. with practical nothing inside of boat. (includes trailer)

Wesley Allen
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sethp001
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Response Posted - 07/14/2016 : 18:12:38

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Originally posted by jduck00

If you're just towing it once, rent a uhaul. Even their short trucks work great. The load rating is plenty high enough, they have the brakes to stop it if the trailer brakes don't work (know from experience), and dual wheels make for an easy pull. I've hauled mine with both a F150 that just met the load limit and a short uhaul truck. The uhaul was a much easier haul.Just about any truck\van can get it moving. For me its more about control and stopping. Side wall flex in single wheel trucks isn't near as comfortable as having two on the back. My trailer is rated for 6000lbs gross weight. I've never weighed it, but I'm pretty sure its overweight. Just my 2 cents.

Jeremy, the U-haul tow vehicle is a really novel idea. You almost make me wish I hadn't switched out the Town and Country for a Suburban so I could tow. There's all that storage space... and you could even camp in it the night before launching!

Seth
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Response Posted - 07/15/2016 : 05:51:13

I went uhaul because I don't have a tow vehicle. I've tried really hard to justify buying a 3/4 ton truck, but nope. Can't find enough reasons to. I pull the boat about once a year and just rent the uhaul for that. Uhaul camping is one part of our hurricane evacuation plan. Throw the valuables in the back, drive as far as traffic allows, and camp. You can forget about getting a hotel within 500 miles with hurricane rolling in. Been real lucky and haven't had to try out that plan yet.

Jeremy Duck
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Davy J
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Response Posted - 07/15/2016 : 06:40:50

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You can forget about getting a hotel within 500 miles with hurricane rolling in. Been real lucky and haven't had to try out that plan yet.

We evacuated when hurricane Charley came to town in 2004. Drove over to Melbourne. The Hilton gave us a discounted rate and even waived their pet policy to give us a room. Most hotels on this coast will do the same when east coasters have to flee........

Davy J

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jduck00
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Response Posted - 07/15/2016 : 07:15:30

Wow, you've had better luck than me. I think the last one I ran from was Arron when I lived in Bama. Nothing was available south of Montgomery. A little off topic, but I've moved my boat to St Pete. We should get together for a boat drink.

Jeremy Duck
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KiteKraemer
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Response Posted - 07/15/2016 : 09:19:56

Thanks guys- I have used a suburban to move the boat in the past. It pushes that vehicle to the limit imho. I bought the sprinter to convert into a rv-- and it would be great if I can use it to bring my rig to the San Juans from Hood river, OR. (about 300 miles). I think the Uhaul Idea is def. a good one. I have always thought about u-haul to move my boat around, but am able to find a buddy with a truck.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 07/15/2016 : 12:46:05

The problem with rentals is the they will generally only authorize towing their own trailers and car dollies on non-commercial rentals. You can just not tell them, but you will be liable and your insurance can legally step away from an unauthorized use if something happens. My 150 tows comfortably for me. The 150 and 1500 series can all be equipped to tow 10 or 11,000 pounds and 160"+ wheelbases. Same size brake disks on the 150 and 250. How much you want to pad the tow capacity is up to you

Dave B. aboard Pearl
1982 TR/SK/Trad. #3399
Lake Erie/Florida Panhandle

Davy J
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Response Posted - 07/15/2016 : 13:47:48

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A little off topic, but I've moved my boat to St Pete. We should get together for a boat drink.

Well I'm all the way on the other side of the bay, but I may be moving the boat to Tierra Verde, I should know more by the end of the month.

Davy J

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PO 1987 C25 #5509 SR/SK
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 07/15/2016 : 19:32:50

Some large UHaul trucks (i.e. 24-26 ft box) are available with a class III hitch, in addition to the bumper hitch. If you decide to rent one, be sure to get one with the class III hitch, then use your own ball mount. Makes for a long rig, but you will hardly notice the boat back there.

DavidP
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Response Posted - 07/17/2016 : 18:47:17

Wait I KNOW this answer... its 8800lbs, minimum!

No I don't think the Sprinter at #5000 max towing, is gonna cut it, even if the more lucid number of #6150 is used.

C&C 32 Smith Mountain Lake Virginia

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