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indecentseas
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Initially Posted - 07/01/2015 :  21:51:20  Show Profile
Last year I replaced the head on my boat. The new head has a manual pump and is made by Jabsco. Everything was great at first. Recently I have had a problem with water seeping in to the empty bowl. Over the course of a few hours the bowl will fill up. The bowl gets maybe 3/4 full but then no more water gets in. I'm guessing this is because the water level in the tank is then equal to the water level of the boat. I believe the water getting in is from the outflow pipe running from the toilet.

Any suggestions on why the water is seeping in? Any suggested fixes?

Thanks!
David Hopkins
Vancouver, British Columbia
'78 Swing Keel, Standard Rig, Dinette
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 07/01/2015 :  23:24:57  Show Profile
I'm not sure why it happens, but in the owner's instructions, Jabsco says that, after you pump the bowl dry, you should flip the black control to the right, and then twist the pump handle 1/4 turn to the left. That locks it somehow, and stops the bowl from filling. Mine actually overflowed once. It never did it again after I started to follow that procedure.
Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
Past Commodore
Edited by - Steve Milby on 07/01/2015 23:26:53
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jduck00
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Response Posted - 07/02/2015 :  03:35:42  Show Profile
Did you put in a anti-siphon valve inline with the water supply?
Jeremy Duck
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 07/02/2015 :  05:16:46  Show Profile
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Originally posted by jduck00

Did you put in a anti-siphon valve inline with the water supply?
I just replaced the old, factory-installed toilet with the new Jabsco.

I have two boats, and I also installed the same model of Jabsco toilet in the other boat. I also installed it without changing any of the existing plumbing. It has no anti-siphon valve or anti-siphon loop, and, according to the manufacturer's instructions, doesn't need one. The toilet is installed on an elevated platform above the boat's static or heeled waterline. I have sailed the boat on it's ear, and it has never siphoned water.

Even though it's working properly, I intend to install an anti-siphon loop soon. It isn't expensive, and won't be difficult to install, and having it will give me some peace of mind, in case I, or whoever installed the previous toilet, have mis-judged the heeled waterline.
Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
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Edited by - Steve Milby on 07/02/2015 05:24:45
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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 07/02/2015 :  12:14:55  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by jduck00

Did you put in a anti-siphon valve inline with the water supply?


The vented loop goes between the bowl and the pump, not on the intake line.

To the OP, you may need to replace your joker valve. It's in the manual that came with the toilet, or available online.
Stu
1986 C34 #224 "Aquavite"
Cowichan Bay, BC Maple Bay Marina
(formerly San Francisco)
(formerly C25 #2459 "Capricorn Two")
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 07/02/2015 :  12:55:11  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Milby

I'm not sure why it happens, but in the owner's instructions, Jabsco says that, after you pump the bowl dry, you should flip the black control to the right, and then twist the pump handle 1/4 turn to the left. That locks it somehow, and stops the bowl from filling. Mine actually overflowed once. It never did it again after I started to follow that procedure.
I looked at the installation instructions again, and the first statement on the page says: "Twist ‘n’ lock action safety handle guards against flooding and waste backflow by locking the waste outlet valve shut." Were you using the Twist ‘n’ lock procedure at the time when the bowl filled with water?
Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
Past Commodore
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Stinkpotter
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 07/02/2015 :  21:15:04  Show Profile
Your head is "outflowing" to the sea? It seems to me that could put you in jeopardy in Canada. Are you allowed to have an overboard discharge there?
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
Edited by - Stinkpotter on 07/03/2015 07:08:58
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indecentseas
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Response Posted - 07/05/2015 :  20:21:52  Show Profile
Stinkpotter: Discharge to the sea not blanket banned in Canada.

Steve: I have been twisting the handle. That's not the problem.

Stu: I'll look into this. I'll update if I fix it.
David Hopkins
Vancouver, British Columbia
'78 Swing Keel, Standard Rig, Dinette
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Akenumber
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Response Posted - 08/02/2015 :  18:36:19  Show Profile
Mine uses the sink as an airgap. I don't flush with sea water. I just put a little water in the sink and it uses that to flush. If I fill up the sink too much it does start to drain into the head automatically.
Ken
San Diego
84 C25 SR/FK 4116
The KRAKEN
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Stinkpotter
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 08/03/2015 :  14:06:27  Show Profile
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Originally posted by indecentseas

Stinkpotter: Discharge to the sea not blanket banned in Canada.
Ya, I guess I'm thinking of Ontario, which was across the water from where we used to live.
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
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