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Last Fling 71
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Initially Posted - 09/08/2014 : 07:23:48

I want to replace my mainsail halyard jam cleat with a line clutch or cam cleat, with fairlead.
Are there any advantages to one versus the other?
I have already replaced the jib sheet jam cleats with cam cleats and they work fine.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 09/08/2014 : 08:05:26

The cleat will be mounted where?

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 09/08/2014 : 09:27:25

I use cam cleats on the cabin top for both. Cam cleats are more abrasive than clutches, but I think clutches are a waste of money on a line like a halyard that is rarely adjusted. Two advantages over a jam in the same location is that they are easier to unload and you can lead the halyard to a sheet winch for tensioning if you want.

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hewebb
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Response Posted - 09/09/2014 : 03:14:16

I opted for rope clutches because of the space available between the pop top and the hand rail. I have two lines running back on the port side and three on the starboard side. If you do any racing you may find yourself using the halyard lines some.

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Response Posted - 09/09/2014 : 06:00:07

The main advantage I found for a clutch over a cam cleat is the clutch is easier to release if the line has been under extreme tension. The more tension on a cam cleat, the harder it bites into the line, to the point where you sometimes can't get it to release without pulling opposite to the tension (which obviously might be difficult).

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Last Fling 71
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Response Posted - 09/09/2014 : 06:00:25

Because of space constraints, I would put the clutch directly forward of the cabin top halyard winch. If I go with a cam cleat, it will be aft & starboard of the halyard winch. With the cam cleat, I could use one of the thru holes from the clam cleat & plug the other. It would only require drilling one new hole thru the cabin top.

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Heartbeat
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Response Posted - 09/11/2014 : 13:49:44

Rope clutches. I think we have the Spinlock XL(?) triple. I don't see the XL for sale anymore, so I guess I would go with the Lewmar D1 triple.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 09/11/2014 : 17:01:15

Do you mean Spinlock XAS? They're still on the market, including from CD (whose price is better than Defender's.)

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redeye
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Response Posted - 09/12/2014 : 05:09:06

I've used both, got clutches now. ( clutch vs cleat ) and cleats are certainly cheaper and simpler.

I have to remind myself to cut the halyard end at the sail every few years to move the area on the halyards that wear.

All of the sudden you look at them and realize you havn't done it in 5 years.

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 09/12/2014 : 16:27:54

Garhauer has great clutches.

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Heartbeat
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Response Posted - 09/15/2014 : 07:43:00

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Originally posted by Stinkpotter

Do you mean Spinlock XAS?

I believe I have an XA. They aren't on the market anymore, but I found a replacement handle at PYacht that looks right. I guess I have had these clutches for 16 years or so. Still work great.

I have used cleats, cam cleats, jam blocks and clutches. Nothing works near as well as clutches. Many items the 'big boats' use I do not recommend. (Dip poles, 2 guys & 2 sheets come to mind.) Clutches for halyards are a different story. Just plain easier if you are racing, cruising, or single handing.

YMMV

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 09/15/2014 : 09:32:06

I used Spinlock clutches on my old boat (C25) and race on boats with them. I use Lewmar clutches on my new boat (Pearson) and much prefer them.

The Lewmar clutch design puts less wear on the rope's cover, releases much more smoothly, and is even a little cheaper. I have 10 of them on my Pearson and think they are great.

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