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davidbloodworth
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Response Posted - 07/31/2014 : 00:25:21

My new Nissan 9.8 extra long outboard arrived today. Was not expecting it for a couple of weeks. Not I have to find time to go to the lake. Can't wait to see what it is like to have a reliable outboard!!

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 07/31/2014 : 05:00:43

Right below the motor there are 2 bolts that connect the motor to the transom clamps. Check that they are tight before you mount the motor on the boat and check them regularly. Mine had a tendency to work loose. One fell off completely before I noticed it, fortunately caught by the trim cover. Otherwise, it was an outstanding motor. Page 46 part #42 in the attached parts book:
http://www.nissanoutboardparts.com/Parts-Catalogs/Parts%20Catalog%20MFS8A3-9.8A3%20%282011%29%20-%20%2800221051-7%29.pdf

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 07/31/2014 : 16:52:31

Put the oil in it.

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sethp001
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Response Posted - 07/31/2014 : 19:35:03

I just remembered the name of the guy who had the electric outboard: Barnacle Bill!

David, I see you received your motor, so I wish good luck and all the best - its an excellent model.

If anybody else is thinking about repowering with electric, I can post the link to Barnacle Bill's blog with his account of using the Torqeedo after a couple of seasons. Or if you're more adept than I, you can probably search and find it here in the forum's archives.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 08/01/2014 : 11:55:59

If you are going to lay it down for the ride to the lake, best to wait until you get there to add the oil. Eliminates the risk of laying it down on the wrong side. It will not hold a full quart, only 800 ml or about 3/4 qt. Do not overfill!

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davidbloodworth
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Response Posted - 08/01/2014 : 14:47:31

Leaving it in the box to travel. Thanks for the info.

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davidbloodworth
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Response Posted - 08/02/2014 : 09:27:04

Can someone close to their boat tell me how far it is from the battery location in the cabin to the motor mount? Starboard side batteries and mount.
Thanks

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 08/02/2014 : 17:29:43

How will you route it?

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davidbloodworth
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Response Posted - 08/03/2014 : 08:31:27

Assuming under quarter berth. Seems like it would be the shortest distance. The cable that came with the motor won't reach to my batteries and I don't really want to move a battery.

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Response Posted - 08/03/2014 : 10:52:27

Late '81s were like the '82s with the external fuel locker. If you have an external tank locker then you can mount terminals inside your dumpster area, maybe on the shelf. Run the motor wires to there and hardwire the terminal strip back to the batteries through the opening for the bilge hose or make a new hole. Putting a terminal strip there allows easy access so you can remove the OB with minimal hassle.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 08/03/2014 : 21:45:25

I have permanent cables from the battery switch connected to a trolling motor receptacle on the transom with a plug on the shortened motor cable. See the Pearl's Bits & Pieces album.

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Response Posted - 08/04/2014 : 11:20:09

I did the trolling motor plug solution on my '89 and liked it a lot.

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andbarger
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Response Posted - 08/11/2014 : 10:13:35

I'm thinking about ditching my 9.9 Yamaha 4 stroke for a 6hp 4 stroke long shaft. The electric start is not working like it should and a new one is a few hundred dollars. In order to start the motor I need to take the cover off, spray a few shots of starting fluid in the carb and then hit the start button this can take a few attempts. Try doing that in anything over a 1' chop and it becomes a pain not to mention the motor weighs 100lb and takes a lot to lift in and out of the water. My wife is not able lift or start the motor at all, and forget about pull starting it. It takes everything I got to even get the motor to turn using the backup pull start. I sail on the West end of Lake Erie and was using a 6 hp for the 2nd half of last season when my 9.9 was is in the shop after having stalling troubles. I didn't have trouble with the 6 at all, it moved the boat just fine. We used it for about 1/2 the trip home from Catawba Island last year.

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panhead1948
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Response Posted - 08/11/2014 : 12:58:56

What 6hp on you looking at?

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andbarger
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Response Posted - 08/11/2014 : 13:35:04

The one I used for the last half of the last season was a 6hp Tohatsu long shaft and the owner of the motor is willing to sell it to me. I think its only 4 years old. But I would consider looking at other options.

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davidbloodworth
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Response Posted - 08/18/2014 : 19:56:13

Installed my new outboard last weekend. I can't tell you how nice it was to push the start button and hear it start. I can't believe I waited this long. Hopefully next time I go I get to see how well it pushes my boat.

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ParaDocks
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Response Posted - 08/23/2014 : 14:45:38

I purchased a 2014 Honda 9.9 hp xl with power thrust elec start from Cumberland Watersports in Tn. for $2900.00 today delivered and tax free.

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Response Posted - 08/23/2014 : 18:07:47

quote:
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I purchased a 2014 Honda 9.9 hp xl with power thrust elec start from Cumberland Watersports in Tn. for $2900.00 today delivered and tax free.

Nice choice.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 08/24/2014 : 07:27:20

quote:
Originally posted by ParaDocks

I purchased a 2014 Honda 9.9 hp xl with power thrust elec start from Cumberland Watersports in Tn. for $2900.00 today delivered and <u>tax free</u>.

Just because Cumberland Watersports didn't collect sales tax at purchase doesn't mean that it is tax free.

From the Colorado Dept of Revenue...

Consumer use tax must be paid by Colorado residents and businesses on purchases that did not include Colorado sales tax, such as those made over the Internet, by mail order, or by telephone. Consumer use tax is payable to the state by individuals and businesses when sales tax is due but has not been collected. Individuals and businesses have always been required to pay sales or use tax on taxable purchases from out-of-state vendors if the item is sold, leased, or delivered in Colorado for use, storage, distribution, or consumption in the state.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 08/24/2014 : 07:47:04

When I went to register our dink (In Florida if it's on the water and has a motor, then it has to be registered) I had to pay Florida Sales (Use) tax on the Engine and Dink as both were purchased out of state. So my registration cost over $200!!!!

But now we're 'Legal' and I have painted the Dinks # on the front port side tube and glued the current decal in place. We're taking the dink with us this weekend (labor day) if for no other reason than to putz around with the decal on display

Paul

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Arlington
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Response Posted - 08/27/2014 : 22:11:29

David, After I stopped putting gas with ethanol in my outboards and all my small engines, I stopped having engine troubles. Now all of them start every time.

Many of the marinas on the Oklahoma side of Lake Texoma have gas without ethanol. When I was up at Catfish Bay Marina, they told me they get their ethanol free gas from a plant near Wynnewood, Oklahoma. They said there is a gas station selling it there as well. A lot of stations in Oklahoma still have ethanol free gas, not so many in Texas.

I'm at Grandpappy Point Marina, Dock 8, 4 Right. Where are you? (BTW, my Dolphin is for sale on Sailing Texas right now)
Doug

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JKBIXBY
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Response Posted - 08/28/2014 : 16:37:43

David, I have sailed Texoma and now sail Lake Eufaula just a couple of hours north of you. Texoma can in the right wind get swells of 4 to 6 feet. I have a Nissan XL, 9.8, elect. start. Would definitely recommend extra long shaft.
When we lived in Galveston had swells so high under the Kemah bridge that my prop came out of the water on several occasions.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 08/28/2014 : 17:42:13

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Originally posted by Arlington

David, After I stopped putting gas with ethanol in my outboards and all my small engines, I stopped having engine troubles. Now all of them start every time.

Many of the marinas on the Oklahoma side of Lake Texoma have gas without ethanol. When I was up at Catfish Bay Marina, they told me they get their ethanol free gas from a plant near Wynnewood, Oklahoma. They said there is a gas station selling it there as well. A lot of stations in Oklahoma still have ethanol free gas, not so many in Texas.

I'm at Grandpappy Point Marina, Dock 8, 4 Right. Where are you? (BTW, my Dolphin is for sale on Sailing Texas right now)
Doug

I saw your Dolphin on ST last night. Looks almost new.

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davidbloodworth
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Response Posted - 08/31/2014 : 16:45:42

Doug,
My boat is at cedar mills marina.

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JohnP
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Response Posted - 09/02/2014 : 11:35:05

When I was caught out in the advancing front of a thunderstorm that brought along 75 mph winds for 20 minutes, I was glad I had a Honda 9.9, extra long shaft outboard. I was barely able to motor off the lee shore where the wind had piled up the water over a spot that was marked as 3 feet at low tide.

That was after I had owned the boat about 9 months, and it was the first summer I had used it.

Later, I learned the techniques of anchoring in such conditions, and I even bought a second big anchor with chain and rode for that purpose! D'uh!

I learned about anchoring and lots of other important stuff from reading postings on this Forum and following up with other reading, such as Chapman's.

Having the equipment and the skills to handle the worst conditions is one of the joys of sailing on inland and coastal waters in our boats.

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