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stang9150
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Initially Posted - 06/12/2017 : 06:51:08

I installed a new top this weekend. Just wanted to put the info out for the size. The top is 36 inches high,67-72 wide and the fabric length is 72 inches. The top is from National Covers,Quality of the frame is ok,speed rated to 45mph 1 inch aluminum frame. The cost was $209.00 shipped. No problems with the boom rubbing or the mainsheet pulleys rubbing under sail. I use the topping lift in port to bring it up a little higher though.

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Response Posted - 06/12/2017 : 09:41:46

That looks about as good as we can get for our boats. Thanks for being a guinea pig and sharing!

What is the headroom under there?

Looks like going forward is going to be tough. Can you bring the rear straps to the stern light in the center of the pushpit? Would that make going forward easier?

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Response Posted - 06/12/2017 : 11:15:57

I will have to measure the headroom to be sure. Well to go forward I just slide the hatch closed,step up on the cockpit seat, sit on the hatch and just go out the front of it.

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Response Posted - 06/12/2017 : 12:13:59

Looks good but I have a question, Why is there 2 main sheets attached to the boom? If you eliminate the forward one you can slide the Bimini back a little more for some extra cockpit coverage. Or am I missing something on that mainsheet set up.

Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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Response Posted - 06/12/2017 : 13:39:35

I never really even gave that a thought. It was like this when I bought the boat. Yes if the aft pulley was gone you can move it back some.

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Response Posted - 06/12/2017 : 13:53:48

I will check that out tonight if I get down there. If I can go back to a stock unit that would be nice.

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Response Posted - 06/12/2017 : 15:50:24

Yep, That's definitely not the stock set up. Don't know why a PO would do that. The stock mainsheet attaches to the tang on the end of the boom. There isn't any line attached to that bail or the bail itself.

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Response Posted - 06/12/2017 : 17:36:33

Here is the rest of the set up. I don't know why this was done,maybe he needed more purchase. I wonder if the set up off a cat 22 would work. The headroom under the top is 5 foot 1 inch.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2017 : 05:16:14

That is the right hardware on your traveler bar but I think you don't have the right hardware on the boom end. You need a single sheave with a Becket to tie the line to. Here is how Its set up. This is the best photos I have.

Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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Response Posted - 06/13/2017 : 08:05:00

http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/2474_407/fiddle-block-brc-22-cp-22-or-c-25.cfm this appears to be the block I would need.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2017 : 08:53:47

No, that is a double sheave and no Becket. You want a single sheave with a Becket.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2017 : 09:03:12

Ok the block I posted looks like the one that comes in their mainsheet kit. I will keep looking.Thanks

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Response Posted - 06/13/2017 : 09:39:16

http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/638_40/double-ended-mainsheet-with-ratchet-block.cfm I see what he did here and this is the kit. It is just not being used as such. I do have the the other cam cleat hanging under the boom like in the picture,where the main sheet goes through it.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2017 : 12:34:15

Well that solved the mystery but with the Bimini that stuff is now useless. I would get rid of all that stuff and convert back to the boom end mainsheet. You have the right block at the traveler, You only need to get one boom end block. Yes you can use the double sheave one like you showed but that one was a little pricey. Actually having the double sheave will give you a choice of setting it up for a 3 to 1 or a 4 to 1 purchase just depends on how you run the line. Mine is set for 3 to 1. You could use this one from CD.https://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/2891_407/fiddle-block-w-shackle-cp-18-cp-22-c-22-c-25-.cfm
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3 to 1 purchase

Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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Response Posted - 06/13/2017 : 13:08:56

Yup that is the plan I purchased the block so I have the options. Will pull all that stuff off maybe it will have value to someone.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2017 : 13:46:02

Yep, Sell those blocks or use for turning blocks at the base of the mast maybe? Anyway Not having those extra lines crossing over the cockpit you won't loose so many caps

You can also move the Bimini back some more gaining valuable shade.

Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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Response Posted - 06/13/2017 : 13:59:02

Thanks for the replies on this topic. Think I will look into the CD Bimini track kit.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2017 : 14:47:12

Funny you should say that. I have mine on tracks. They are 18" Bimini tracks that you can get about anywhere. You could lay them over the holes from the stationary mounts you have.

Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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Response Posted - 06/13/2017 : 15:02:57

How do your tracks lock the top in place? Do the screws front and back go into the deck or into the track? Can you put the top anywhere on the track you want?

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Response Posted - 06/13/2017 : 15:04:42

I was able to move the bimini from my C-22 to the C-25 without modification, and back to the C-22 when I sold the C-25. On the C-25 it just barely fit under my tall rig, but the problem, however, was that that it mounted in the middle of the deck between the genoa track and the coaming. That made going forward difficult. I had to close the companionway hatch and climb forward over the hatch, and under a fairly low bimini, or go up to the forward hatch and climb out there. Mounting the bimini on top of the cockpit coaming is a much better solution. The standard rig allows for more headroom. I could not stand up under our bimini.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2017 : 15:17:23

I agree mine is mounted on my coaming with 5 feet of headroom. I just need the tracks to slide around, after I fix this mainsheet fiasco.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2017 : 15:50:35

Yes it can be slid anywhere along the track limited only by the backstay if you disconnect the mainsheet or the mainsheet if you leave it connected. Those screws fore and aft of the mount lock the mount in place wherever you want it. They don't screw into the coamings. They thread into sliders inside the tracks. The mount and the locking sliders all slide inside the track. Loosen the screws, Put the Bimini where you want then tighten the screws.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2017 : 15:59:05

The only screws that go into the coamings are in the two end caps at each end of the tracks.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2017 : 22:17:11

Got it. I see most the tracks they sell now only have one stop. A lot of them mention the tracks are used to put the top in a storage position. Where did you get your tracks from?

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Response Posted - 06/14/2017 : 03:37:53

I think WM but any marine store should have them along with the stops, mounts, hinges etc. Do a search for Bimini parts If you don't have something local.

Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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Response Posted - 06/14/2017 : 04:23:28

Some other fine tuning I did was to get the straps out of the way. I didn't want the rear straps to block side access to getting on or off the boat so I slid the straps down to the bow joint on the side and put a small eye strap above the coaming box to clip it too. I put two eye straps above the windows to clip the front straps to. This got them out of the way for being able to go forward along the side.

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