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redeye
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Initially Posted - 04/20/2015 :  05:00:41  Show Profile
<< Rob is wearing me out! >>

He's about to kill me...

Yepper.. He has reminded me of another maintenance thing I need to do.

Drop the mast, Inspect and/or replace the spreader wire, add a flag halyard, and repair/replace the wind vane.

Raise the mast and re-tune the rig.

Any special instructions on a Flag Halyard? Inside, outside, middle of spreader?

I imagine I'll use the same tap and screws I used on the mast gate and add a strap holding a block.

I think I will double wrap the wire at the spreader ends to hold the spreader up in place.
Ray in Atlanta, Ga.
"Lee Key" '84 Catalina 25
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islander
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Response Posted - 04/20/2015 :  06:02:47  Show Profile
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Inside, outside, middle of spreader?

Middle..Less chance of the flag slapping the shrouds or mast
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I think I will double wrap the wire at the spreader ends to hold the spreader up in place.

The seizing wire doesn't support the spreader, Just keeps the shroud in the end cap slot. Its not wrapped tight around the shroud but is a loose loop so the shroud can slide through it. A good trick is to take a toothpick placed alongside of the shroud then wrap the seizing wire around the shroud and toothpick forming the loop. When you finish remove the toothpick and now the loop is just loose enough to allow the shroud to slide through it.
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


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wanderer13
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Response Posted - 04/20/2015 :  09:35:45  Show Profile
Don't waste your $$$ on a flag halyard "kit". You can build your own with an eye loop, mini-block, nylon messenger line, and a small cleat on the mast (a little higher than your whisker pole ring). I put the pulley/block about 1/2 - 2/3 outboard on the spreader. I put mine in for <$10 with almost new equipment I found at a marine consignment shop.
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redeye
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Response Posted - 04/20/2015 :  09:56:51  Show Profile
<< Its not wrapped tight >>

Did not know that.. I've always worried the flag halyard would pull down on the spreader. Oh. and I didn't know the rig could come down if the stay jumped the spreader, so I guess that little wire is kinda important..

Can I use the stainless wire they sell for securing the anchor rode shackle?


I was thinking about putting the block just inside the stay, and use a cleat mounted stay below it. Or even just mount the block on the stay, just to keep everything away from my external halyard on the mast.
Ray in Atlanta, Ga.
"Lee Key" '84 Catalina 25
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Edited by - redeye on 04/20/2015 10:12:09
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 04/20/2015 :  10:18:35  Show Profile
Ray, why are you going to the bother of dropping the mast just to do that. It can all be safely done from a bosun's chair (I've got one I'll sell for $50).
Derek Crawford
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1981 C-25 TR/FK #2262 Used to have an '89 C22 #9483, "Downsized"
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islander
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Response Posted - 04/20/2015 :  10:33:28  Show Profile
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Can I use the stainless wire they sell for securing the anchor rode shackle?

I don't know if it's the same or not but this is what I used from CD
http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/1931_149/seizing-wire-stainless-steel.cfm
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


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redeye
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Response Posted - 04/20/2015 :  10:57:16  Show Profile
Yep.. thats it.
Ray in Atlanta, Ga.
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redeye
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Response Posted - 04/20/2015 :  10:59:07  Show Profile
<< It can all be safely done from a bosun's chair (I've got one I'll sell for $50). >>

Got a climbing harness...but I've got a stress fracture in my foot right now so I've gotta behave till it mends...

Doing a lotta mootoring with my new 4HP trying to get 10 hours in at 1/2 speed as a breakin procedure


Ray in Atlanta, Ga.
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Edited by - redeye on 04/20/2015 11:11:40
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dasreboot
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Response Posted - 04/20/2015 :  11:10:48  Show Profile  Visit dasreboot's Homepage
i read a good rule of thumb for going up the mast on small boats. ballast should be 10 times your body weight. that lets me out. I've only ever gone up on a 36 foot boat with 9000 pounds of ballast.
Todd Lewis
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 04/21/2015 :  20:40:25  Show Profile
Todd, my foredeck guy once spent 30 minutes at the masthead changing out the halyard sheaves - and he weighed 185lbs so that 10x may not be accurate.
Derek Crawford
Chief Measurer C25-250 2008
Previous owner of "This Side UP"
1981 C-25 TR/FK #2262 Used to have an '89 C22 #9483, "Downsized"
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 04/22/2015 :  07:56:49  Show Profile
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Originally posted by Derek Crawford

Todd, my foredeck guy once spent 30 minutes at the masthead changing out the halyard sheaves - and he weighed 185lbs so that 10x may not be accurate.
You had 1900 lbs of ballast--no prob!
Dave Bristle
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PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
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