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JanS48
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Initially Posted - 02/24/2016 :  19:37:08  Show Profile
Greetings all, the nuts on my keel bolts look less than great at 33years of age. I will most likely go for the kit to 'sister' them eventually. Are there any reports of a keel coming 'un-glued' ?
I don't sweat hitting anything but the boat does take a pounding sometimes if I head a ways out off-shore.
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Jan

82 C25 SR FK
Sailing out of Newport Harbor.

DavidBuoy
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Response Posted - 02/25/2016 :  10:03:26  Show Profile
Whats a keel bolt??


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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 02/25/2016 :  11:02:01  Show Profile
I have never heard of it happening with a Catalina 25 or 27. A few years ago a sailboat in San Diego lost its keel but it was a racing yacht, not a Catalina. I saw a YouTube video of a repair shop removing the fin keel from a C27 and they used a blade attached to a fork lift to break the bond between the keel and the hull. So it is a formidable bond. As long as you have some metal still visible your bolts are probably still functioning. Make sure the sole the bolts go through is not soft. That would be more worrisome. I sistered my bolts about 10 years ago and it is a lot of work. My keel is cast iron and it was a slow process drilling it. If you have a lead encased keel it will be a lot easier. As I recall I did not double up on all the bolts but added three or four down the center to assist the original bolts.

Joe Wergers
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 02/25/2016 :  15:28:57  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Sloop Smitten

...If you have a lead encased keel it will be a lot easier...

...and the original bolts and nuts are stainless steel. Only the cast iron keels (up to around 1983) had mild steel bolts.

For the mild steel nuts, it's probably a good idea to slather something like roofing cement on them to seal out moisture and air.

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Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
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Response Posted - 02/25/2016 :  15:37:54  Show Profile
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Originally posted by DavidBuoy

Whats a keel bolt??

It's a threaded piece of steel that makes a winch, clutch, cable, eyebolt, tube, hose, turning ball, etc. unnecessary.

Dave Bristle
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islander
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Response Posted - 02/25/2016 :  19:55:34  Show Profile

Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 02/27/2016 :  15:32:26  Show Profile
Ah yes, bolts vs cable - this forums ongoing angst! Just glad I have the former!!

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Response Posted - 02/29/2016 :  05:46:36  Show Profile  Visit dasreboot's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by DavidBuoy

Whats a keel bolt??



you have one...ONE!

Todd Lewis
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JanS48
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Response Posted - 02/29/2016 :  21:48:30  Show Profile
Thanks for the post guys, I probably shouldn't have called them bolts as it's threaded rod that comes thru the bottom most part of the hull, the rods are still in-tact as are the nuts but very much rusted. The floor of the bilge seems quite solid still. This is an 82 which is a cast-iron keel. I suspected that it would be a durable bond between the fiberglass and the keel. I'm going to do as one suggested and coat them with something that will keep out the moisture. It sounds like a lot of work to sister them but I may be up for it late fall, I'm going to chance it for another season. Thanks again for the info.
Jan

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/01/2016 :  07:35:00  Show Profile
I don't think anyone here has heard of one falling off a C-25. (About 6000 C-25s were built--I suspect more than 2500 were fin keels.)

Dave Bristle
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PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 03/01/2016 07:38:18
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islander
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Response Posted - 03/01/2016 :  08:34:18  Show Profile
I'm with Dave, As long as the surrounding area is solid I would coat the bolts with roofing cement or truck bed liner like Herculiner Brush-On Bedliner. You could hit the bolts with rust converter first.

Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


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