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Jan Briede
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Initially Posted - 06/03/2015 :  17:23:10  Show Profile
Approximately 5 years ago I discovered my boat had the smile. It took me the entire summer to fix it. The boat has been in the water since 2010 and I finally hauled her (with lots of trepidations). I'm happy to report that the smile held and all is well. I just recorded the process in my blog for all to read. Suffice it to say I'm a happy sailor, glad my repair held up. Thanks to all of you who advised me and answered my questions during the process 5 years ago!
Jan Briede
Beagle
1979 TR #1242 FK
L-Dinette
Yorktown, VA
Blog -- http://vanomad.blogspot.com/

OJ
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Response Posted - 06/03/2015 :  20:24:12  Show Profile
See what can happen when you do repairs the right way . . .

1989 C25 TR/WK, #5822
1973 McVay Minuet 19
1975 Jester 12
1981 C25 SR/SK, #2428
1981 C22 SR/SK,
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Akenumber
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Response Posted - 06/09/2015 :  20:38:22  Show Profile
Is this still a concern on a lead keel? Mine is hauled rite now and there is no smile and all looks great, sanded to bare gel for barrier coat. But the keel looks cocked sideways a degree or two. Probably came that way from the factory? Any thoughts?
Ken
San Diego
84 C25 SR/FK 4116
The KRAKEN
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Tomas Kruska
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Response Posted - 06/10/2015 :  04:08:37  Show Profile  Visit Tomas Kruska's Homepage
Very nice blog Jan. Glad your repair is a one big success
Dalpol Phobos 21, 2013, Sole Mio, hull #27, current adventures - We sail Phobos 21

PO of Catalina C25, 1978, High Anxiety, hull #701, SR, FK, L-dinette, inboard diesel Volvo Penta MD2010C w/saildrive - more info
Edited by - Tomas Kruska on 06/10/2015 04:28:30
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islander
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Response Posted - 06/10/2015 :  05:09:08  Show Profile
quote:
Is this still a concern on a lead keel?

I'm not positive but I think the smile happens to boats with a cast iron keel and the mild steel/rusted out keel boats. The stainless keel bolts and a lead keel took care of that problem. If your keel is on an angle and there isn't any crack then I would guess it came that way.
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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Jan Briede
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Response Posted - 06/11/2015 :  10:43:26  Show Profile
I think Islander is right. I seem to remember previous discussions in this group and remember it is mostly a cast iron (read age) thing; and from what I have heard 27s are also subject to it. If you do not have it, do not sweat it.
But for one thing, restoring an old boat is work. But I never forgot what my friend told me "if you only work on the boat you'll get burned out. Fix those things that make a boat fit for sailing and then alternate work and play."
Jan Briede
Beagle
1979 TR #1242 FK
L-Dinette
Yorktown, VA
Blog -- http://vanomad.blogspot.com/
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 06/11/2015 :  11:47:44  Show Profile
FWIW, the "smile" isn't unique to Catalinas. Any boat with a bolt on keel can have a smile. For example, C&C owners call it a C&C smile.

The smile is generally a result of a hard grounding, where the keel hits bottom hard enough to crack the joint between the keel and the keel stub.
Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
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Edited by - Steve Milby on 06/11/2015 11:50:53
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