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glivs
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Initially Posted - 04/29/2015 :  17:00:37  Show Profile
Recent discussion about bilge pumps got me looking into replacing ours. I see that Rule lists some as UL approved and others of the same size as not. Any thoughts/experience?
Gerry & Leslie; Malletts Bay, VT
"Great Escape" 1989 C-25 SR/WK #5972

Voyager
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Response Posted - 04/29/2015 :  19:54:42  Show Profile
Gotta check my UL tags!
Bruce Ross
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Response Posted - 04/29/2015 :  20:27:09  Show Profile
Some credible investigative reporting convinced me that UL approves just about anything for their price as long as they don't find a short in their samples. The unapproved models might just be awaiting their installments.
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
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redeye
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Response Posted - 04/30/2015 :  06:44:38  Show Profile
This Looks interesting.. Maybe not this particular application but it beats a snubber... If we had a connection on the hull to the bilge maybe...
Ray in Atlanta, Ga.
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delliottg
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Response Posted - 04/30/2015 :  07:26:35  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
That's one of those "why didn't I think of that" devices. Very clever. Fortunately our bilge has always been dry, plus we added a 2000 GPH Rule pump, float switch & controller some time ago (that's never been used since except to test that it works occasionally).
David
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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 04/30/2015 :  12:18:38  Show Profile
I would buy a pump from a creditable supplier and/or if it has good reviews and not focus on UL. I'll probably here from some about my opinion, but . . . As someone who at my business spends a lot each year maintaining UL approval I can attest that for many items they are nothing more than a consulting group that shakes down anytime they can. The origins of UL was to safeguard the consumer against household appliances that may overheat and cause a fire. At a point of time when appliance motors generated significant heat that might cause a wire harness to fail their certification may have had value. UL has leveraged that reputation and certifies items that frankly don't fit that dated area of concern. Technology has advanced to a point where motors, wire harnesses, circuit boards rarely fail because of self inflicted or other thermal shock -- and such the case includes the types of small electrical pumps that we would put into the bilge of our boats. In short, if it has UL, great. If not, don't obsess over it.
Peter Bigelow
C-25 TR/FK #2092 Limerick
Rowayton, Ct
Port Captain: Rowayton/Norwalk/Darien CT
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 04/30/2015 :  14:03:09  Show Profile
In Canada, the CSA provides a similar service to UL. Not sure whether they provide any more value than UL but they have a great racket. It's like insurance you pay and pay and hopefully you never need it. That said, I'd prefer to buy products with both certs...
Bruce Ross
Passage ~ SR-FK ~ C25 #5032

Port Captain — Milford, CT
Edited by - Voyager on 04/30/2015 14:04:32
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glivs
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Response Posted - 05/02/2015 :  06:36:08  Show Profile
Thanks all...your comments pretty much matched my understanding. Our bilge has always been dry but just planning for the unplanned.
Gerry & Leslie; Malletts Bay, VT
"Great Escape" 1989 C-25 SR/WK #5972
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