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TakeFive
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Initially Posted - 04/11/2015 :  18:57:34  Show Profile
I am thinking of installing some halyards running up to my spreaders. Might be useful for flying club burgees, or possibly a radar reflector (if a 20' high radar reflector does any good). I figured I might pop rivet a loop to the bottom of each spreader, to which I could shackle a small block for the halyard.

Have any of you done this? Got any suggestions? Where should I run the halyard - mast step plate, or stanchion base?

Do any of you have other suggestions for where to install a radar reflector? I've been tempted to put one near the top of the backstay, but not sure if my mainsail might collide with it. I don't want to put something up there that requires me to drop the mast once the boat's in the water.
Rick S., Swarthmore, PA
PO of Take Five, 1998 Catalina 250WK #348 (relocated to Baltimore's Inner Harbor)
New owner of 2001 Catalina 34MkII #1535 Breakin' Away (at Rock Hall Landing Marina)

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Response Posted - 04/13/2015 :  08:00:12  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Rick, we added Flag Halyards to both spreaders.

If I recall, they are riveted to about the mid point of the underside of each spreader.

The only issue we have is when the wind 'flaps' the burgee, it twings the shroud!

If I were to do it again, I would consider mounting the straps closer to the outboard end of the spreader.

Paul
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awetmore
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Response Posted - 04/14/2015 :  17:28:06  Show Profile
My flag halyard is just a tiny cheap block secured to the spreader with a zip-tie. Cheap, zero damage to anything, and trivial to install.
Alex W
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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 04/14/2015 :  18:40:12  Show Profile
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Originally posted by awetmore

My flag halyard is just a tiny cheap block secured to the spreader with a zip-tie. Cheap, zero damage to anything, and trivial to install.

I was starting to lean toward lashing a cheap block. The zip tie is an interesting alternative, though I'd be concerned about it loosening up over time, especially with the foil shape of the C250 spreader.

Any suggestions on specs for the halyard? 3/16" double braid, maybe? Or just cheap stuff from Home Depot?
Rick S., Swarthmore, PA
PO of Take Five, 1998 Catalina 250WK #348 (relocated to Baltimore's Inner Harbor)
New owner of 2001 Catalina 34MkII #1535 Breakin' Away (at Rock Hall Landing Marina)
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islander
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Response Posted - 04/15/2015 :  05:48:44  Show Profile
Rick, I have 1/8" double braid that works well and is suprisingly strong. Its tied to form a contiuous loop, One for each side. Its run through a small pad eye and block mid span on the bottom of the spreader and down to a cleat on the mast. Cheap enough at WM http://www.westmarine.com/buy/new-england-ropes--1-8-braided-polyester-cord--P002_071_001_516
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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Edited by - islander on 04/15/2015 06:09:56
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awetmore
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Response Posted - 04/15/2015 :  07:22:17  Show Profile
I just use the 3mm utility line (not cheaper paracord) sold by most rope manufacturers. It's plenty strong for holding up a flag and inexpensive. There is a clip on either end and a cleat on my lower shroud.

I think you'll be fine with a zip tie unless the C250 spreader has an aggressive taper.

I hang my radar reflector from my backstay (you'll see this same configuration on most racing sailboats).
Alex W
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previously owned 1984 Catalina 25 "Lutra"
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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 04/21/2015 :  19:49:36  Show Profile
I bought two cheap clothesline pulleys from Home Depot and lashed them with 1/8" polyester line from West Marine. The zip ties would have probably worked, but I thought a few lashes with line would be less likely to loosen and/or slide along the spreader. I added a little duct tape to provide even more friction, and to prevent any galvanic corrosion between the pulley and the aluminum spreader.



The mast went up this evening, so I'm not changing it.

How do you guys recommend attaching a burgee to the halyard?
Rick S., Swarthmore, PA
PO of Take Five, 1998 Catalina 250WK #348 (relocated to Baltimore's Inner Harbor)
New owner of 2001 Catalina 34MkII #1535 Breakin' Away (at Rock Hall Landing Marina)
Edited by - TakeFive on 04/21/2015 19:52:44
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awetmore
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Response Posted - 04/24/2015 :  06:21:23  Show Profile
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Originally posted by TakeFive
How do you guys recommend attaching a burgee to the halyard?


The simple way is with two bowlines, then hitch the line into a loop when there is no burgee.

The easier to use way is with a pair of light duty snaps like these:
http://www.fisheriessupply.com/sea-dog-line-round-swivel-eye-baby-snap
Alex W
Seattle, WA
Express 37 "re-Quest"
previously owned 1984 Catalina 25 "Lutra"
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islander
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Response Posted - 04/24/2015 :  07:57:32  Show Profile
Flag snaps

and how to attach them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaWx5mL-2Xs
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


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