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seashot
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Initially Posted - 01/07/2003 :  00:03:36  Show Profile
Does anyone have any knowledge of Lake Norman, NC? Any 25's on the lake? We are considering a move from Michigan (burr) to Charlotte NC (ahh) and would very much like to take our boat with us.
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Response Posted - 01/07/2003 :  07:20:01  Show Profile
Bring the boat! Yep, we know of a few Catalina 25's on Lake Norman. {ok Chris, if you are out there, tell these folks about your lake sailing} There are also some larger sail boats in that lake. It is a nice area for a weekend sail.

Jason and Fran
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Response Posted - 01/07/2003 :  07:20:01  Show Profile
Bring the boat! Yep, we know of a few Catalina 25's on Lake Norman. {ok Chris, if you are out there, tell these folks about your lake sailing} There are also some larger sail boats in that lake. It is a nice area for a weekend sail.

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 01/07/2003 :  07:31:00  Show Profile
Before buying our home on the Great Sacandaga Lake, Char and I had made a trip looking at potential retirement areas. One was Charlotte and Lake Norman. It looks a wonderful place to sail. But we wanted mountains, besides sailing waters and the next year discovered Knoxville. That was our vision before the Great Sacandaga Lake.

Don Peet
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Response Posted - 01/07/2003 :  07:31:00  Show Profile
Before buying our home on the Great Sacandaga Lake, Char and I had made a trip looking at potential retirement areas. One was Charlotte and Lake Norman. It looks a wonderful place to sail. But we wanted mountains, besides sailing waters and the next year discovered Knoxville. That was our vision before the Great Sacandaga Lake.

Don Peet
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Gloss
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Response Posted - 01/07/2003 :  16:02:10  Show Profile
I just inspected an 89 C25 which I was thinking of buying on lake Norman. The port side of the hull had no blisters, starbord side had hundreds. The reason I'm telling you this is Lake Norman has a reputation for hull blisters due to the high water temperature. Apparently last year they had over 30 days with water temperatures over 80. Bath Water. Higher temperatures accelerate the blistering process.
I was also told that it costs about 2 thousand a year for a slip on Lake Norman. That's not an issue for me as I live in Knoxville, and my slip costs 10 dollars a month at my sailing club.
The blisters were an issue, and I turned the boat down.
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Response Posted - 01/07/2003 :  16:02:10  Show Profile
I just inspected an 89 C25 which I was thinking of buying on lake Norman. The port side of the hull had no blisters, starbord side had hundreds. The reason I'm telling you this is Lake Norman has a reputation for hull blisters due to the high water temperature. Apparently last year they had over 30 days with water temperatures over 80. Bath Water. Higher temperatures accelerate the blistering process.
I was also told that it costs about 2 thousand a year for a slip on Lake Norman. That's not an issue for me as I live in Knoxville, and my slip costs 10 dollars a month at my sailing club.
The blisters were an issue, and I turned the boat down.
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matsche
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Response Posted - 01/07/2003 :  18:34:45  Show Profile
Welcome seashot. Lake Norman is great for easy sailing. It's large enough to get some decent wind, and has about 500 miles of shoreline to keep it interesting. The temps are moderate so you can sail year round. There's a lot of sailboats on the lake, several marinas, restaurants, etc... Only one commercial lift located at All Seasons Marina. Blisters can be a problem in any warm water lake. Most of the catalinas I've seen have a few small ones on either side near the waterline. Slips for a 25 range from 1,000 to 2,000 per year. There are a couple of sailing clubs where the rates might be lower.

John Matsche 1985 Cat-25 TR/FK
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matsche
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Response Posted - 01/07/2003 :  18:34:45  Show Profile
Welcome seashot. Lake Norman is great for easy sailing. It's large enough to get some decent wind, and has about 500 miles of shoreline to keep it interesting. The temps are moderate so you can sail year round. There's a lot of sailboats on the lake, several marinas, restaurants, etc... Only one commercial lift located at All Seasons Marina. Blisters can be a problem in any warm water lake. Most of the catalinas I've seen have a few small ones on either side near the waterline. Slips for a 25 range from 1,000 to 2,000 per year. There are a couple of sailing clubs where the rates might be lower.

John Matsche 1985 Cat-25 TR/FK
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Response Posted - 01/07/2003 :  19:18:52  Show Profile
"...my slip costs 10 dollars a month..." - Frank

Psst...Frank...Don't tell anyone about how little you pay for a slip, because once people find out how cheap it is, there will be a run on slips at your marina which will drive up demand and increase your slip fees. $10.00 per month ??? How much is the membership fee, $1,000.00?

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/07/2003 :  19:18:52  Show Profile
"...my slip costs 10 dollars a month..." - Frank

Psst...Frank...Don't tell anyone about how little you pay for a slip, because once people find out how cheap it is, there will be a run on slips at your marina which will drive up demand and increase your slip fees. $10.00 per month ??? How much is the membership fee, $1,000.00?

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 01/08/2003 :  00:52:16  Show Profile
I lived in Charlotte 1977-1980, and while I didn't have a boat then, a friend of mine who worked for Duke Power had a Catalina 25 on Lake Norman until last year, and thoroughly enjoyed it. One benefit of Lake Norman is that the water level is not allowed to fluctuate much, since it is the cooling water source for at least two or three Duke power plants, including McGuire Nuclear Station. This in contrast to our own Folsom Lake, near Sacramento, Calif., which drops as much as 60' between spring and autumn. In some recent years, the slip renters at the Folsom Lake Marina have had to pull out as early as the first weekend in August because the marina docks were about to go high and dry on the mud, as the Bureau of Reclamation (owner of Folsom Dam and the water in the lake) drew the lake down for summer water deliveries to it's customers. The other posters to this thread are correct about the blister problem. Better get an epoxy bottom put on the boat, if it doesn't already have one, before making a long-term berth rental at any fresh water lake "down south".


Larry Charlot
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Response Posted - 01/08/2003 :  00:52:16  Show Profile
I lived in Charlotte 1977-1980, and while I didn't have a boat then, a friend of mine who worked for Duke Power had a Catalina 25 on Lake Norman until last year, and thoroughly enjoyed it. One benefit of Lake Norman is that the water level is not allowed to fluctuate much, since it is the cooling water source for at least two or three Duke power plants, including McGuire Nuclear Station. This in contrast to our own Folsom Lake, near Sacramento, Calif., which drops as much as 60' between spring and autumn. In some recent years, the slip renters at the Folsom Lake Marina have had to pull out as early as the first weekend in August because the marina docks were about to go high and dry on the mud, as the Bureau of Reclamation (owner of Folsom Dam and the water in the lake) drew the lake down for summer water deliveries to it's customers. The other posters to this thread are correct about the blister problem. Better get an epoxy bottom put on the boat, if it doesn't already have one, before making a long-term berth rental at any fresh water lake "down south".


Larry Charlot
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Gloss
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Response Posted - 01/08/2003 :  14:29:50  Show Profile
My membership fee is $360 per year, slip is $10 per month. We have a lift which you can rent for $7per day if you want to paint your bottom. I think they are going to double slip fees to $20 per month this year. Yikes, how can I afford a 100% price increase?
The problem with Lake Louden is that it is polluted and has lots of algae, so you grow green slime on the bottom. Last fall I repainted my 22 with Micron Extra with Biolux.

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Response Posted - 01/08/2003 :  14:29:50  Show Profile
My membership fee is $360 per year, slip is $10 per month. We have a lift which you can rent for $7per day if you want to paint your bottom. I think they are going to double slip fees to $20 per month this year. Yikes, how can I afford a 100% price increase?
The problem with Lake Louden is that it is polluted and has lots of algae, so you grow green slime on the bottom. Last fall I repainted my 22 with Micron Extra with Biolux.

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Headhunter
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Response Posted - 01/11/2003 :  19:47:08  Show Profile
I have a Catalina 25 on Lake Norman...There used to be a fairly active Catalina 25 Assn. fleet here, but nothing's been done for a few years. The National regatta was actually here a few years back. I think there are at least 50 25s on the lake, most of which probably never leave the dock.

I'm a member (and this year's Rear Commodore) of the Outrigger Yacht Club. We're an orphan club (no marina) that sponsors most all of the keelboat phrf racing on the lake as well as social activities - Chili Fest, Oyster Raost, BBQ, Xmas Party and dinner, etc. We sponsor a winter Icicle Series, a Spring Series, an 18 race Wednesday Night Series in the Summer, a Fall Series and about 5 or more regattas each year.

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Headhunter
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Response Posted - 01/11/2003 :  19:47:08  Show Profile
I have a Catalina 25 on Lake Norman...There used to be a fairly active Catalina 25 Assn. fleet here, but nothing's been done for a few years. The National regatta was actually here a few years back. I think there are at least 50 25s on the lake, most of which probably never leave the dock.

I'm a member (and this year's Rear Commodore) of the Outrigger Yacht Club. We're an orphan club (no marina) that sponsors most all of the keelboat phrf racing on the lake as well as social activities - Chili Fest, Oyster Raost, BBQ, Xmas Party and dinner, etc. We sponsor a winter Icicle Series, a Spring Series, an 18 race Wednesday Night Series in the Summer, a Fall Series and about 5 or more regattas each year.

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 01/12/2003 :  07:05:14  Show Profile
Outrigger Yacht Club sounds like its a pretty active club, especially for a club without a marina. Can members anchor their boats near the club, or must they find space at a nearby marina?



Don Peet
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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 01/12/2003 :  07:05:14  Show Profile
Outrigger Yacht Club sounds like its a pretty active club, especially for a club without a marina. Can members anchor their boats near the club, or must they find space at a nearby marina?



Don Peet
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Headhunter
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Response Posted - 01/12/2003 :  09:39:23  Show Profile
We are active...About 60 or so racing days per year. You can see our schedule at www.outriggeryachtclub.org ...The 2003 schedule hasn't been posted as yet. Not all are OYC events - some of the charity regattas are done through the charity, the Peninsula Cup is sponsored by the Peninsula Yacht Club, and the Lake Norman Yacht Club is very active as well, but mainly in the one-design classes...San Juans, Lasers, Flying Scots, etc.

OYC doesn't have a clubhouse, per se. We tend to use the clubhouse at Mariner Villas, a waterfront condo/townhouse community, for meetings, parties, etc. Members dock their boats at their homes, King's Point Marina, Mariner Villas, Lake Norman Sail Club, Peninsula Yacht Club, Lake Norman Yacht Club, and other neighborhood marinas.

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Response Posted - 01/12/2003 :  09:39:23  Show Profile
We are active...About 60 or so racing days per year. You can see our schedule at www.outriggeryachtclub.org ...The 2003 schedule hasn't been posted as yet. Not all are OYC events - some of the charity regattas are done through the charity, the Peninsula Cup is sponsored by the Peninsula Yacht Club, and the Lake Norman Yacht Club is very active as well, but mainly in the one-design classes...San Juans, Lasers, Flying Scots, etc.

OYC doesn't have a clubhouse, per se. We tend to use the clubhouse at Mariner Villas, a waterfront condo/townhouse community, for meetings, parties, etc. Members dock their boats at their homes, King's Point Marina, Mariner Villas, Lake Norman Sail Club, Peninsula Yacht Club, Lake Norman Yacht Club, and other neighborhood marinas.

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